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Idaho Stop

Group for support of implementing the "Idaho Stop" in Chicago, allowing cyclists to treat Stop signs as Yield.

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Latest Activity: Jun 14


Discussion: Idaho’s stop-as-yield statute ...
"For 26 years, cyclists in Idaho have rolled through stop signs—legally."

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Offsite Blog: "A Better Approach For Illinois Bicyclists: Our Own Private Idaho"

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Opposition to a change in the law 4 Replies

You can get the law changed and it's going to really make you feel good about what you've accomplished but the result will be you will piss of the motorists, those other users of the street that can…Continue

Started by Bob Kastigar. Last reply by Bob Kastigar Jun 24, 2011.

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Comment by Andronymous on May 13, 2014 at 10:54am

Nice new article on "Why cyclists should be able to roll through stop signs and ride through red lights"

Presents the usual energy conservation basics, precedence, and that the laws were designed for cars, then further suggests it would be safer.

Comment by Eli on October 7, 2013 at 4:51pm

That's disappointing. It's not going to stop being controversial if no one will make the case for it.

Is your draft law available online anywhere?

Comment by Brendan Kevenides on October 6, 2013 at 10:58am

My sense is that they would support it in theory, but that at this time it is too controversial and would have little chance of gaining political support.

Comment by Tim S on October 6, 2013 at 10:40am
Why is there no support from ATA?
Comment by Brendan Kevenides on October 6, 2013 at 9:53am

I drafted a proposed "stop as yield law" at the request of Active Trans. They asked me for anything I'd like to see become part of the city's bicycle safety ordinance that was passed this summer.  That was on my wish list.  However, it was not submitted.  At the moment, there is no support at Active Trans or the City for such a law.  But we should continue to advocate for it.  It's coming. . . some day.

Comment by Anne Alt on October 5, 2013 at 6:52am

Given the recent trend towards more stop sign stings, I'd agree that it's time to start working on this again.  I'd favor the idea of starting with a petition to ATA and LIB - gather signatures and demonstrate the level of support for such a law.

Comment by h' 1.0 on August 18, 2013 at 12:21pm

As far as I know this is not something our advocacy organizations (ATA/LIB) are working towards right now.

So where it's at-- there's a Chainlink group that has not been active since early-mid 2011.  I wasn't to worried about this as long as cyclists weren't routinely ticketed for rolling stops, but there are signs that may be changing.

All it would take is someone willing to commit to a certain amount of work and some minimal organizing chops to plan a real world action-- a rally, protest, event to push the idea in order to get things rolling. 

Online discussions aimed at consensus building stop being useful at the point that nobody is willing to make such a commitment.

Comment by Josh L. on August 18, 2013 at 11:37am

can somebody tell me where this and other movements are at for getting idaho stop  law passed in Illinois?

Comment by Andronymous on November 2, 2012 at 4:13pm

The Way You Ride Is Probably A Crime 

Brendan Kevenides

Comment by Andronymous on May 31, 2011 at 9:12pm

Distantly related, allows crossing a red if it fails to detect your weight and change in a reasonable time. Sadly intended for motorcycles.

X-Posting from ActiveTrans:

Bicyclists straight on red bill passes
On Sunday, while you were enjoying 30 miles of car-free cycling on Lake Shore Drive, the Illinois General Assembly was hard at work. In an overwhelming vote (101-11), they passed HB 2860. It now goes to Gov. Pat Quinn for his signature.
This bill will allow bicyclists to treat a red light as a stop sign and proceed with caution if the red light fails to turn green in a reasonable amount of time. The bill's provisions only apply if the red light signal fails to detect the cyclist due to the light weight of the bike or another signal malfunction. The bill does not apply in the City of Chicago.
An initiative of the motorcyclists (who would also be covered) lobby, the bill is controversial. What is a reasonable amount of time? Can the straight on red provision lead to more cycle v. pedestrian crashes? Will the bill create more confusion on the roadway?
If the bill becomes law, Active Trans enourages you to exercise caution. Only proceed on red after coming to a complete stop, ensuring there is no danger from cross traffic and ensuring that there are no pedestrians in the intersection.



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