Hello:
My touring/gravel road bike came stock with 11/32 9-speed cassette Shimano LX in the rear and a Sora Derailleur with Sora 52-42-30 Triple Crank up front and bar end shifters (one side friction and one side indexed). I am wondering if this is more of a race set up and if I should look into either a Sugino XD 600 46-36-24 or 46-36-26 crank up front. This would require me ditching the external bottom bracket for a square taper too. Has anybody toured and thought the 30 tooth granny up front was not enough on the low end when loaded with 60 pounds? Also, I am not sure if a mountain bike crank can go up front either.
I am new to touring. I might just try it and see what happens when I hit hills. Still, love to get the your inputs.
Thanks,
Dave
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Permalink Reply by notoriousDUG on January 26, 2013 at 11:22am Why change cranks, just change the chain rings...
Permalink Reply by milkbar on January 26, 2013 at 11:55am Hi Dave, that gearing gets you about 4mph a cadence of 60rpm. In very extreme circumstances less than 1:1 is useful, but not really.
Permalink Reply by Jeff Schneider on January 26, 2013 at 12:35pm Hi Dave,
I don't think any triple chainring crank would be considered a racing setup.
I'd be happy with your chainrings and cassette unless I had a *lot* of serious grades in my tour. You could fit a smaller chainring and a larger granny cog on the cassette, but adjustment of the derailleurs becomes a little more trouble as the range they have to span increases.
One caveat - I have done camping tours lasting weeks, but never in really isolated areas, or in winter, so I never had to carry anything like 60 lbs. I rarely carried more than 30 lbs. of gear...the thought of hauling 60 lbs. makes me weep!
Whatever gear you have, you are going to have a blast learning about touring. It's amazing all the little tricks you learn when you ride all day and camp every night.
Permalink Reply by djm on January 26, 2013 at 1:00pm You may very well be fine with a 30 x 32. It depends on you, your load and how long and steep the climbs will be. Load up, find some hills nearby and give it a spin. If you decide you need lower gears, Shimano offers 11-34 and 12-36 9-cog cassettes if your rear derailleur has the capacity. If not, it is likely cheaper to replace the rear derailleur and cassette than change the crankset and bottom bracket.
Permalink Reply by Dave D on January 26, 2013 at 1:44pm Thanks again. I think I will try loading up with 50lbs and taking on some hills and seeing how it feels. If I need more low end, maybe an 11-36 rear cassette might be the easiest solution.
Permalink Reply by Barry Niel Stuart on January 26, 2013 at 4:04pm My own bike, a Jamis Aurora, came stock with a FSA Vero 50/39/30 crank and a 11-32 9-spd. cassette. It's done me quite well carrying me on camping trips in Southeast Wisconsin and Northern Illinois. If you're going to change your cassette to get a lower gear, you're going to need the same number of cogs as you have stops in your shift levers. You may also need a mountain bike derailleur. My own bike was spec'd with a Shimano Deore SGS rear derailleur. As far as touring, I hope to see you on the road should the Chainlink campers try another trip into Southeast Wisconsin or Lake County.
Permalink Reply by Kelvin Mulcky on January 26, 2013 at 8:52pm In my opinion, a 52-42-30 is a terrible crank to tour on. Especially if you're going to hauling heavey loads.
You'll never use the 52t ring while touring, except while in a long down-hill, so why even have it? In every other circumstance you'll be cross chaining.
In my opinion, wide range cassettes are also terrible to tour on. Wide gaps in rear cogs make it harder to keep a cadence while climbing, or starting from a stoplight. It also takes longer for the rear mech to make the shifts, making for an awkwardness while gaining momentum.
I suggest a compact mtb crank, like a 42-32-22, and a 12-27 cassette. This is a much more user friendly set-up. You basically use it like a compact double + bail out. If you're hauling 60lbs for 50-100 miles a day you will definitely need the bail out 22t. You might spin out the 42t on a down hill, but who cares? You're not racing. You're touring.
Permalink Reply by Jeff Schneider on January 26, 2013 at 10:00pm What you describe is ideal, if you want to spend the money to get to ideal for touring. For an all-around bike, sometimes the 52 chainring is nice. But I agree, on tour (even with much less than 60 lbs of gear) it's not useful.
Kelvin Mulcky said:
In my opinion, a 52-42-30 is a terrible crank to tour on. Especially if you're going to hauling heavey loads.
You'll never use the 52t ring while touring, except while in a long down-hill, so why even have it? In every other circumstance you'll be cross chaining.
In my opinion, wide range cassettes are also terrible to tour on. Wide gaps in rear cogs make it harder to keep a cadence while climbing, or starting from a stoplight. It also takes longer for the rear mech to make the shifts, making for an awkwardness while gaining momentum.
I suggest a compact mtb crank, like a 42-32-22, and a 12-27 cassette. This is a much more user friendly set-up. You basically use it like a compact double + bail out. If you're hauling 60lbs for 50-100 miles a day you will definitely need the bail out 22t. You might spin out the 42t on a down hill, but who cares? You're not racing. You're touring.
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