When will the Trail Separation project be completed? - The Chainlink2024-03-29T01:15:07Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/when-will-the-trail-separation-project-be-completed?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A1125450&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=no I’m not sure anyone is still…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-17:2211490:Comment:11258322019-07-17T11:26:16.830ZSteve Ahttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SteveA
<p> I’m not sure anyone is still reading this forum, but I’ll go ahead and weigh in since I am a witness to the crash. Both Mark and Bob have made it clear that the rider was not trying to pass anyone, but swerved off the trail to avoid running in to the cyclist in front of him who had slowed unexpectedly and dramatically because of the jogger in front of the group. Once off the trail, the rider found himself face-to-face with a giant orange barrel. He successfully steered between the barrel…</p>
<p> I’m not sure anyone is still reading this forum, but I’ll go ahead and weigh in since I am a witness to the crash. Both Mark and Bob have made it clear that the rider was not trying to pass anyone, but swerved off the trail to avoid running in to the cyclist in front of him who had slowed unexpectedly and dramatically because of the jogger in front of the group. Once off the trail, the rider found himself face-to-face with a giant orange barrel. He successfully steered between the barrel and the tree. Unfortunately, his front wheel dropped into a hole in the rough section of the grass, a holdover from the construction of the path or the planting of the trees. At this point, his wheel bent and he was propelled over the handlebars. When he landed on his head, he broke his neck. That is what you see in the photograph. So yes, the barrel did not cause the crash, but it was a part of the outcome. Minus the barrel, perhaps the rider would have just sailed off into the grass and then rejoined the group. No one can say anything for certain.</p>
<p>I think the point is that when people make uninformed conclusions and accusations, it can be very disparaging and hurtful to victims of an unavoidable accident. I also know, that when the victim came to the Chainlink to view the pictures of his crash scene, he was a bit upset, and more than a little angry.</p>
<p>I hope that in future, people might ask a few questions before they jump to conclusions and accusations. Just my two cents. </p> another misunderstanding, i m…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-11:2211490:Comment:11254592019-07-11T15:16:24.175Zbobweiserhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/bobhsiung
<p>another misunderstanding, i meant DerferMark</p>
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<p>another misunderstanding, i meant DerferMark</p>
<p></p> I was not trying to compare t…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-11:2211490:Comment:11254582019-07-11T15:03:21.798ZMarkhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Mark314
<p>I was not trying to compare the situations. It was a jogger that passed me on the left making contact with me on a blind turn. It was a dangerous move that should never have happened, but the jogger was too impatient to slow down with the rest of the trail traffic. Fortunately, there was no oncoming traffic.</p>
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<p>I was not trying to compare the situations. It was a jogger that passed me on the left making contact with me on a blind turn. It was a dangerous move that should never have happened, but the jogger was too impatient to slow down with the rest of the trail traffic. Fortunately, there was no oncoming traffic.</p>
<p></p> FYI, the barrels are gone now…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-11:2211490:Comment:11256932019-07-11T14:47:18.875Zbobweiserhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/bobhsiung
<p>FYI, the barrels are gone now. Next someone will ride into a tree and we'll clamor to get them back. The perfect compromise: wrap the trees like goalposts.</p>
<p>FYI, the barrels are gone now. Next someone will ride into a tree and we'll clamor to get them back. The perfect compromise: wrap the trees like goalposts.</p> i think there's been a misund…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-11:2211490:Comment:11256322019-07-11T14:43:52.147Zbobweiserhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/bobhsiung
<p>i think there's been a misunderstanding here. mark said "attempted to pass", but really the rider was attempting to avoid rear-ending the rider in front of him, who was slowing down, because of that jogger in the cycle section.</p>
<p>i reacted to someone who crashed while trying to avoid a crash being called clumsy.</p>
<p>i think there's been a misunderstanding here. mark said "attempted to pass", but really the rider was attempting to avoid rear-ending the rider in front of him, who was slowing down, because of that jogger in the cycle section.</p>
<p>i reacted to someone who crashed while trying to avoid a crash being called clumsy.</p> How so? I was riding at low s…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-11:2211490:Comment:11256312019-07-11T14:18:24.078ZErnesto Lubehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErnestoLube
<p>How so? I was riding at low speed, not intending to pass anyone. </p>
<p>How so? I was riding at low speed, not intending to pass anyone. </p> got it, you were almost clums…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-11:2211490:Comment:11255332019-07-11T14:00:31.419Zbobweiserhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/bobhsiung
<p>got it, you were almost clumsy on the legit side.</p>
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<p>got it, you were almost clumsy on the legit side.</p>
<p></p> Cyclists on places like the L…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-11:2211490:Comment:11256902019-07-11T13:46:04.848ZDavid P.https://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidAPertuz
<p>Cyclists on places like the LFP seem much more unaware, as a group, than drivers that it is incumbent on the person making a pass to do so safely, and to *not* do so until they can do so safely. </p>
<p>Cyclists on places like the LFP seem much more unaware, as a group, than drivers that it is incumbent on the person making a pass to do so safely, and to *not* do so until they can do so safely. </p> I was on legit side of bike t…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-10:2211490:Comment:11254522019-07-10T20:40:53.761ZErnesto Lubehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErnestoLube
<p>I was on legit side of bike trail. Guy cyclist was riding too fast also. He went on my lane and almost crashed on to me. I was <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/VVuLUA32RbCfTtdV6" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here: https://goo.gl/maps/VVuLUA32RbCfTtdV6</a></p>
<p>I was on legit side of bike trail. Guy cyclist was riding too fast also. He went on my lane and almost crashed on to me. I was <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/VVuLUA32RbCfTtdV6" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here: https://goo.gl/maps/VVuLUA32RbCfTtdV6</a></p> ernesto, i guess you were onl…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-07-10:2211490:Comment:11256802019-07-10T20:31:34.496Zbobweiserhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/bobhsiung
<p>ernesto, i guess you were only "almost" clumsy. i'm glad you're ok.</p>
<p>ernesto, i guess you were only "almost" clumsy. i'm glad you're ok.</p>