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I'm sorry you were so offended that I tapped on your car mirror. You were glued to your phone and it was the only way to get your attention and let you know you were blocking the entire bike lane (N. Deaborn @ Post Office) during the rush and forcing cyclists into traffic.

And while I think it was a little ironic to speed down the street to tell me I broke the law, I definitely think throwing a glass bottle was a bit much. However, since it shattered in your car and not on me, I'll let it slide.

I can't even fathom the courage and strength it must have took to put your foot down and whip down the block and around the corner. But boy were you red with embarrassment when I took the alley and cut you off. You must have ran out of bottles because this time you kept the windows up. I'm sure your partner will be proud of the example you set for your daughter in the back seat.

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Argonne, you're on a roll today, and I agree with everything you've said on this thread.

Double +1!

Well, I admire your restraint and appreciate you being able to keep your cool. On behalf of people who drive that aren't psychopaths, I apologize for this ridiculous and completely unwarranted amount of stress you had to suffer.
And doh, apparently I can't either reply to individual replies or edit. : P

Nevertheless, as a cyclist who does believe in asserting our collective right (and responsibility) to ride on the street, respect, Tooscrapps.
clp, I'd say that *your* expectation that people in a bike forum stop advocating for bike lanes is what is out of touch with reality.

Seriously, you're on the same place of delusion as the PETA types who stand in front of McDonald's and yell at their customers.

Nobody is buying your snake oil that bike lanes are counter productive. So all you're doing is repeating yourself, and in doing so coming off as tone deaf and dismissive of other's concerns. Plus you're just factually wrong. If nobody respected bike lanes we'd see dozens of dead cyclists every day.

So, good luck with the head-banging-into-wall thing you've got going on here.

Thank you again for being a voice of reason here. Much appreciated.

Can I have that framed?  My daughter has just enough wall space amongst the cat, super hero, and other such posters - and I'm sure she'd appreciate it!  : )

It's getting rather silly, no?

Fine, I'll go along with the warped logic for a minute. Go ahead and contact your alderman and insist that they repeal the "no vehicles stopped in bike lanes" ordinance. Insist that they paint over the handful of bike lanes in the city. That's certainly your right as a citizen.

However, until the day that the law is revoked, and the bike lanes removed, I will continue to be f*cking pissed off that the city doesn't enforce the law, along with dozens of others laws on the books that aren't enforced. Don't even get me started on the total f*cking a*holes that smoke just outside buildings when the God d*mn f*cking signs 2 feet away clearly state that smoking isn't allowed with 25 ft of the door. Are smokers f*cking illiterate?

Amen, and those same smokers often lean on the bike racks and refuse to move when you show up to use the bike rack for its actual purpose.

I gotta agree with CLP in that I'm not a fan of bike lanes. In stead of bike lanes all lanes should be treated as sharrows. Cyclists should be treated as the vehicles that we are and motorists should be ticketed for not giving us our three feet, just as motorists think that we should be ticketed for not stopping for stop signs.

Bike lanes can give a cyclist a false sense of security while also giving the motorists something to scream about, as in "get in your bike lane".

Also bike lanes that don't turn into sharrows at intersections are just right hooks looking to happen.

A study by University of Colorado Denver researchers Nick Ferenchak and Wesley Marshall examined safety outcomes for areas in Chicago that received bike lanes, sharrows, and no bicycling street treatments at all. (The study was conducted before Chicago had much in the way of protected bike lanes, so it did not distinguish between types of bike lanes.) The results suggest that bike lanes encourage more people to bike and make biking safer, while sharrows don’t do much of either.

There are more articles on this topic but this one is a good one.

I have no study to present but it's my opinion that if sharrows don't work it has more to do with enforcement than anything. If motorists were ticketed for crowding cyclists and cyclists were treated by the police as vehicles entitled to lane usage it would go a long way towards our safety, without the artificial protection of bike lanes.

More cyclists using bike lanes doesn't necessarily mean that they are safer, it could just as easily draw usage from the perception that they are safer. 'Specially if they attract those with no cycling street smarts. 

Not to mention that it's still illegal to stop in a shared bike lane.


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