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Illinois house approves 2% income tax hike from 3% to 5% (the amount you paid last year will increase by about 67% assuming everything else is the same)

Goofy-long URL to Greg Hinz blog

 

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I'm OK with it.

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Next year they'll raise it again.
What ever happened to taxing the rich?

Who is this "we?"  Got a mouse in your pocket?

 

I, for one, never asked for any "goodies."  I don't want stolen money taken at gunpoint from those who'd rather keep it themselves.

 

I'd like to have a bunch of nice bikes, but I don't want guys with special hats and badges to go and take money from a bunch of people so "we" can all buy it for me.

 

Jeff Schneider said:

Not so many good choices, at this point, unfortunately.  For many years we wanted the goodies but didn't want to pay.  Now we get to pay...
I am OK with as long as everyone is paying.

I'm not OK with it.

 

I am even less OK with the tax increase on businesses.

 

The changes need to be in what we spend, not on what we tax.

What Doug Said! ;-)
I think that for too long the state has been writing checks that it can't cash. IMO there is too many people who are or will collect pensions. I have heard that most "public officials" will collect some sort of pension in addition to their own personal funds that they have invested. Now I have to pay extra for people who took a deal that they knew was too good to be true. I wish more attention would be put on how to cut spending rather then how to "generate" revenues. I would be more positive on tax increases if I believed that they would be spent wisely.

The bold is the part that gets me; I would not have as much of an issue if the money was being used wisely.

 

I also have issue because the increase in business taxes is, in the long run, actually going to decrease the states income because new industry is not going to come Illinois to employ people and the business that are currently located here are going to move out of the state if they get the chance. 

 

If Illinois wants more money and wants me to be happy about it they need to seriously get their spending in check and work to create a business envoirnment that will draw employers to the state, not drive them away.
Davo said:

I think that for too long the state has been writing checks that it can't cash. IMO there is too many people who are or will collect pensions. I have heard that most "public officials" will collect some sort of pension in addition to their own personal funds that they have invested. Now I have to pay extra for people who took a deal that they knew was too good to be true. I wish more attention would be put on how to cut spending rather then how to "generate" revenues. I would be more positive on tax increases if I believed that they would be spent wisely.
Yeah, I heard the Wisconsin governor  is super psyched about this.

notoriousDUG said:

The bold is the part that gets me; I would not have as much of an issue if the money was being used wisely.

 

I also have issue because the increase in business taxes is, in the long run, actually going to decrease the states income because new industry is not going to come Illinois to employ people and the business that are currently located here are going to move out of the state if they get the chance. 

 

If Illinois wants more money and wants me to be happy about it they need to seriously get their spending in check and work to create a business envoirnment that will draw employers to the state, not drive them away.
Davo said:

I think that for too long the state has been writing checks that it can't cash. IMO there is too many people who are or will collect pensions. I have heard that most "public officials" will collect some sort of pension in addition to their own personal funds that they have invested. Now I have to pay extra for people who took a deal that they knew was too good to be true. I wish more attention would be put on how to cut spending rather then how to "generate" revenues. I would be more positive on tax increases if I believed that they would be spent wisely.
And Wisconsin can use it to do something kinda douchy.

notoriousDUG said:

The bold is the part that gets me; I would not have as much of an issue if the money was being used wisely.

 

I also have issue because the increase in business taxes is, in the long run, actually going to decrease the states income because new industry is not going to come Illinois to employ people and the business that are currently located here are going to move out of the state if they get the chance. 

 

If Illinois wants more money and wants me to be happy about it they need to seriously get their spending in check and work to create a business envoirnment that will draw employers to the state, not drive them away.
Davo said:

I think that for too long the state has been writing checks that it can't cash. IMO there is too many people who are or will collect pensions. I have heard that most "public officials" will collect some sort of pension in addition to their own personal funds that they have invested. Now I have to pay extra for people who took a deal that they knew was too good to be true. I wish more attention would be put on how to cut spending rather then how to "generate" revenues. I would be more positive on tax increases if I believed that they would be spent wisely.

Anybody ride in from Whiting or another NW Indiana town? 

South Shore Line and then bike? 

Anyone have experience living in a neighborhood across the border and would like to share? 

I am failing to see what this tax increase does to control spending? I work for a public company and have not had a pay increase in 3 years. While I don't like that fact, I can understand, since we haven't tunred a profit in nearly 3 years either.

Yet government workers continue to get their automatic pay increases, and their double dipping pension, etc. Yet, the state of Illinois hasn't turned a profit in how long? Somehow that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

 

H3N3, I am interested to hear more about why you (and maybe others) are OK with the tax increase.


notoriousDUG said:

The bold is the part that gets me; I would not have as much of an issue if the money was being used wisely.

 

I also have issue because the increase in business taxes is, in the long run, actually going to decrease the states income because new industry is not going to come Illinois to employ people and the business that are currently located here are going to move out of the state if they get the chance. 

 

If Illinois wants more money and wants me to be happy about it they need to seriously get their spending in check and work to create a business envoirnment that will draw employers to the state, not drive them away.
Davo said:

I think that for too long the state has been writing checks that it can't cash. IMO there is too many people who are or will collect pensions. I have heard that most "public officials" will collect some sort of pension in addition to their own personal funds that they have invested. Now I have to pay extra for people who took a deal that they knew was too good to be true. I wish more attention would be put on how to cut spending rather then how to "generate" revenues. I would be more positive on tax increases if I believed that they would be spent wisely.

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