"Defensive Architecture" - The Chainlink2024-03-29T05:23:57Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/defensive-architecture?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI live in the area, and I hav…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-21:2211490:Comment:10731772017-08-21T18:05:24.579ZPaul Lazzarohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PaulLazzaro
<p>I live in the area, and I have never had any issue with the people living in the tents under LSD at Lawrence and Wilson. I'm able to pass on foot or on my bike with no problem. However, I'm not sure that some people (especially with children accompanying them) would always feel as safe.</p>
<p>As you have explained, how best to help the people in these encampments find real housing is not a simple matter. But I don't support encouraging permanent residence in public spaces. If the…</p>
<p>I live in the area, and I have never had any issue with the people living in the tents under LSD at Lawrence and Wilson. I'm able to pass on foot or on my bike with no problem. However, I'm not sure that some people (especially with children accompanying them) would always feel as safe.</p>
<p>As you have explained, how best to help the people in these encampments find real housing is not a simple matter. But I don't support encouraging permanent residence in public spaces. If the tax-paying public feels that the public spaces are not available for their use, they will cease to be interested in paying the taxes for their upkeep. That will lead to a death spiral of privatization and isolation with everyone retreating to gated "communities". I don't want to see that my neighborhood.</p> Actually, what you're suppose…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-21:2211490:Comment:10728692017-08-21T14:12:00.770ZJohn Greenfieldhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JohnGreenfield
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35274955?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35274955?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> Actually, what you're suppose to do there is head north on a path past the skate park to the 11th Street bridge, then follow paths east and south again under Columbus Drive and LAke Shore Drive to the Lakefront Trail by the Shedd Aquarium. It's indirect, but a safe alternative to…</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35274955?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35274955?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>Actually, what you're suppose to do there is head north on a path past the skate park to the 11th Street bridge, then follow paths east and south again under Columbus Drive and LAke Shore Drive to the Lakefront Trail by the Shedd Aquarium. It's indirect, but a safe alternative to Roosevelt. </p> It's an age long urban conund…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-18:2211490:Comment:10730132017-08-18T22:34:00.115ZNezhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Nez
It's an age long urban conundrum. There are homeless shelters, but not nearly enough. And only a subset of the homeless benefit from them, as they are temporary. The problem is that there aren't enough long term residences to answer the needs (and not enough services for those with addiction/substance abuse/ mental illness as causes of their homelessness). Finally, a small subset of the homeless will always actually prefer to live outside because they can't tolerate the…
It's an age long urban conundrum. There are homeless shelters, but not nearly enough. And only a subset of the homeless benefit from them, as they are temporary. The problem is that there aren't enough long term residences to answer the needs (and not enough services for those with addiction/substance abuse/ mental illness as causes of their homelessness). Finally, a small subset of the homeless will always actually prefer to live outside because they can't tolerate the restrictions/rules/adherence to structure required to gain permanent shelter.<br />
Tents under the underpasses aren't the answer. There are health concerns with that, as well as the domino effect of risks that a missing walkway/bike lane bring on...The pedestrian/cyclist takes to the street and has a greater chance of being struck by a vehicle, etc.<br />
They should build the bike lane, and our City should separately address the homelessness with a better solution than a city of tents under a roadway. Meanwhile the Lathrop homes o…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-17:2211490:Comment:10723572017-08-17T04:28:25.747ZMike Zumwalthttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MikeZumwalt
<p>Meanwhile the Lathrop homes on Diversey and Clybourn are mostly vacant as the city fights over whether they should assisted/low income housing or market rate apartments.</p>
<p>The continuing gentrification of Uptown and the closing of SRO's men's housing and cheap hotels leave them no option.</p>
<p>No one wants to see the poor or homeless anyway.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the Lathrop homes on Diversey and Clybourn are mostly vacant as the city fights over whether they should assisted/low income housing or market rate apartments.</p>
<p>The continuing gentrification of Uptown and the closing of SRO's men's housing and cheap hotels leave them no option.</p>
<p>No one wants to see the poor or homeless anyway.</p> The one block bike lane on Ro…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-17:2211490:Comment:10725752017-08-17T04:21:28.644ZMike Zumwalthttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MikeZumwalt
<p>The one block bike lane on Roosevelt is even worse as you have to come off the sidewalk cross over the crosswalk a bus lane and onto Roosevelt which ranks in bike friendliness along with Western or North ave.</p>
<p>The one block bike lane on Roosevelt is even worse as you have to come off the sidewalk cross over the crosswalk a bus lane and onto Roosevelt which ranks in bike friendliness along with Western or North ave.</p> Yes, this seems accurate.tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-16:2211490:Comment:10721692017-08-16T14:51:55.322ZAlex Zhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AlexZ
<p>Yes, this seems accurate.</p>
<p>Yes, this seems accurate.</p> I'm sure people occasionally…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-16:2211490:Comment:10724022017-08-16T14:22:41.805ZJohn Greenfieldhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JohnGreenfield
<p>I'm sure people occasionally slept under the Randolph viaduct, but it wasn't like there was a 24/7 tent city there, as is the case with the Uptown viaducts. I believe it's still possible to sleep on the south sidewalk the Randolph viaduct, so it seems unlikely that that the sidewalk bike lane was installed to prevent homeless people from sleeping in the underpass. Rather, this is the the last block before the Randolph protected lane meets up with the Clinton PBL, and the city decided to go…</p>
<p>I'm sure people occasionally slept under the Randolph viaduct, but it wasn't like there was a 24/7 tent city there, as is the case with the Uptown viaducts. I believe it's still possible to sleep on the south sidewalk the Randolph viaduct, so it seems unlikely that that the sidewalk bike lane was installed to prevent homeless people from sleeping in the underpass. Rather, this is the the last block before the Randolph protected lane meets up with the Clinton PBL, and the city decided to go with the sidewalk design rather than converting a travel lane in the viaduct.</p> Thanks. My memory aligns with…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-15:2211490:Comment:10723922017-08-15T20:06:05.486ZAlex Zhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AlexZ
<p>Thanks. My memory aligns with John's, but I was curious whether you remembered otherwise.</p>
<p>Thanks. My memory aligns with John's, but I was curious whether you remembered otherwise.</p> If you're asking whether I pe…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-15:2211490:Comment:10723912017-08-15T18:57:26.876ZMauricehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Maurice
<p>If you're asking whether I personally know that homeless people used to sleep under the Randolph viaduct, the answer is yes, I know that they did.</p>
<p>If you're asking whether I personally know that homeless people used to sleep under the Randolph viaduct, the answer is yes, I know that they did.</p> There were no major issues wi…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-15:2211490:Comment:10722492017-08-15T14:57:11.008ZJohn Greenfieldhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JohnGreenfield
<p>There were no major issues with people camping out in the Randolph viaduct before the bike lane was installed. I'm still not a big fan of that set-up -- it would have been easy for the city to convert one of several travel lanes within the underpass to a protected bike lane, as was done on the rest of Randolph in the Loop, instead of putting the bike lane on the sidewalk.</p>
<p>There were no major issues with people camping out in the Randolph viaduct before the bike lane was installed. I'm still not a big fan of that set-up -- it would have been easy for the city to convert one of several travel lanes within the underpass to a protected bike lane, as was done on the rest of Randolph in the Loop, instead of putting the bike lane on the sidewalk.</p>