CPD ticketing cyclists near Six Corners - The Chainlink2024-03-29T09:43:15Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/cpd-ticketing-cyclists-near-six-corners?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A1039003&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI always cross with the pedes…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-27:2211490:Comment:10390032017-01-27T16:34:47.066ZErin Rensinkhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErinRensink
<p>I always cross with the pedestrians at that light going SB on Milwaukee and pause in front of the Starbucks because I feel like it gives me more space, and the drivers behind me more space as well. Recently there had been that concrete barricade and scaffolding. I don't need some SUV cutting me off by turning right in front of me because they are late to yoga. And what's more I sometimes ride through with my son in the cargo bike so more space is good space.</p>
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<p>I always cross with the pedestrians at that light going SB on Milwaukee and pause in front of the Starbucks because I feel like it gives me more space, and the drivers behind me more space as well. Recently there had been that concrete barricade and scaffolding. I don't need some SUV cutting me off by turning right in front of me because they are late to yoga. And what's more I sometimes ride through with my son in the cargo bike so more space is good space.</p>
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<p>I was also under the impression that cyclists were allowed in the crosswalk as long as they were taking every reasonable precaution to allow for pedestrians safety? But I think the caveat is that you need to stay in the crosswalk the entire time for it to be legal. It's in the vehicular code.... you can look it up.</p>
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<p>What I would really love to see on the stretch of Milwaukee south of Damen is one row of parking removed with full bike lanes and wider sidewalks! Maybe I can start on a rendering of what that would look like and present it to the alderman instead. There is NO REASON why a vibrant commercial strip like Milwaukee needs to feel like a congested death trap.</p>
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<p></p> Normally, at two-street inter…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-27:2211490:Comment:10390832017-01-27T00:43:55.958ZYasmeenhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/YasmeenSchuller
<p>Normally, at two-street intersections, I agree - it is safer to get out in front of traffic and be early. </p>
<p>At the intersection in question, last Saturday morning I was in the left turn lane (turning on Milwaukee from Damen) and after the light was green (for me), I was nearly hit head on by a driver that was driving into the intersection on a red, turning left too sharply into my turn lane where I was a sitting duck. I screamed. Luckily, she stopped before she hit me but she was…</p>
<p>Normally, at two-street intersections, I agree - it is safer to get out in front of traffic and be early. </p>
<p>At the intersection in question, last Saturday morning I was in the left turn lane (turning on Milwaukee from Damen) and after the light was green (for me), I was nearly hit head on by a driver that was driving into the intersection on a red, turning left too sharply into my turn lane where I was a sitting duck. I screamed. Luckily, she stopped before she hit me but she was headed straight for the turn lane. I think, because there are too many variables, trying to get out in front in a 3-way intersection is not safe because there's too much of a chance someone could get in the intersection on a red and hit you. </p> Safer for whom? You, or the p…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-27:2211490:Comment:10388562017-01-27T00:31:34.095ZDuppiehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Duppie
Safer for whom? You, or the pedestrian? I find the view of the pedestrian completely lacking in this discussion<br />
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Safer. Determined by whom?<br />
I always wait for light on six corner intersections. I rather have the the unpredictable driver in front of me than behind me. So I would say waiting is safer than skipping ahead.<br />
You do get my point, right: "Safer" in this context is your (and mine) opinion. Not a fact.
Safer for whom? You, or the pedestrian? I find the view of the pedestrian completely lacking in this discussion<br />
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Safer. Determined by whom?<br />
I always wait for light on six corner intersections. I rather have the the unpredictable driver in front of me than behind me. So I would say waiting is safer than skipping ahead.<br />
You do get my point, right: "Safer" in this context is your (and mine) opinion. Not a fact. Um, no Zach, it's not. Lou Ma…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-26:2211490:Comment:10389162017-01-26T21:38:33.978ZYasmeenhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/YasmeenSchuller
<p>Um, no Zach, it's not. Lou Malnati's. :-p</p>
<p>Um, no Zach, it's not. Lou Malnati's. :-p</p> I never known there was a "st…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-26:2211490:Comment:10389922017-01-26T21:24:00.173Zgjchttps://thechainlink.org/profile/GavinCornwell
<p>I never known there was a "standard," though it shouldn't surprise me. Perhaps it is for the timing of left-hand turners? <br/><br/>Nearly everyone traveling SE that stops at the Starbucks is easily passed on the actual green; they have to wait for cars #2, #3, and #4 that go South through the yellow Damen light and those cyclists that waited at the red have some speed built up by that point. </p>
<p>I never known there was a "standard," though it shouldn't surprise me. Perhaps it is for the timing of left-hand turners? <br/><br/>Nearly everyone traveling SE that stops at the Starbucks is easily passed on the actual green; they have to wait for cars #2, #3, and #4 that go South through the yellow Damen light and those cyclists that waited at the red have some speed built up by that point. </p> Actually Milwaukee/Grand/Hals…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-26:2211490:Comment:10389902017-01-26T21:06:35.172ZDavid P.https://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidAPertuz
<p>Actually Milwaukee/Grand/Halsted has a non-standard CW light cycle, and the other 6-ways have the standard CCW cycle. M/G/H changed a couple of years ago for some reason.</p>
<p>Actually Milwaukee/Grand/Halsted has a non-standard CW light cycle, and the other 6-ways have the standard CCW cycle. M/G/H changed a couple of years ago for some reason.</p> People who call Milwaukee/Nor…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-26:2211490:Comment:10388362017-01-26T21:03:52.453ZDavid P.https://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidAPertuz
<p>People who call Milwaukee/North/Damen "6 Corners" just subscribe to "alternative facts". And they probably do put ketchup on their hot dogs and think Giordano's is the best.</p>
<p>People who call Milwaukee/North/Damen "6 Corners" just subscribe to "alternative facts". And they probably do put ketchup on their hot dogs and think Giordano's is the best.</p> From me:
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Ward02@cityofchi…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-26:2211490:Comment:10388312017-01-26T19:27:56.086ZRenee Pattenhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ReneePatten653
<p>From me:</p>
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<p>Ward02@cityofchicago.org,<br></br>CLEARPATH@chicagopolice.org<br></br>cc: ward01@cityofchicago.org</p>
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<div>I am writing to voice my frustration and make sure that you know I think Brian Hopkins and the CPD's actions regarding the bicyclist targeted enforcement in Wicker Park on event were <b><u>incredibly disrespectful and shortsighted.</u></b> </div>
<div>Attached are pictures of the danger that drivers put me in every day on our streets when I am on my bike (the…</div>
<p>From me:</p>
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<p>Ward02@cityofchicago.org,<br/>CLEARPATH@chicagopolice.org<br/>cc: ward01@cityofchicago.org</p>
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<div>I am writing to voice my frustration and make sure that you know I think Brian Hopkins and the CPD's actions regarding the bicyclist targeted enforcement in Wicker Park on event were <b><u>incredibly disrespectful and shortsighted.</u></b> </div>
<div>Attached are pictures of the danger that drivers put me in every day on our streets when I am on my bike (the pictures I attached were 20 pictures or cars in bike lanes). Please request that our law enforcement hand out tickets to them, those drivers in their murder weapons, breaking the law, that threaten my health, my safety and that of our city and environment every day. </div>
<div>I believe enforcement should focus on the types of violations that are most common and have the greatest potential to cause harm, such as cars speeding or failing to yield to pedestrians. I am not a danger to others on my bike.</div>
<div>I would much prefer you use your effort, time, and resources to make that intersection safe for all road users; make travel safer and more orderly. Adding curb extensions to shorten crossing distances and an additional crosswalk connecting the southwest and northern corners, as well as replacing a slip lane with pedestrian space.</div>
<div>Thank you for the understanding.</div>
<div>Renee</div> How about we pretend I wrote…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-26:2211490:Comment:10389812017-01-26T18:01:27.447ZElizabeth McKinleyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ElizabethMcKinley
<p>How about we pretend I wrote "the six corners at Milwaukee, Damen, and North," instead? After all, there is no denying the number of corners at a three-way intersection. I'll remember to save the proper noun capitalization for the TRUE Six Corners at <span>Milwaukee, Cicero and Irving Park. </span></p>
<p>Apologies for the error -- it must be because I grew up in Berwyn. 3 miles outside city limits, oh no! That probably why I don't care for deep dish either. ;)</p>
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<p>How about we pretend I wrote "the six corners at Milwaukee, Damen, and North," instead? After all, there is no denying the number of corners at a three-way intersection. I'll remember to save the proper noun capitalization for the TRUE Six Corners at <span>Milwaukee, Cicero and Irving Park. </span></p>
<p>Apologies for the error -- it must be because I grew up in Berwyn. 3 miles outside city limits, oh no! That probably why I don't care for deep dish either. ;)</p>
<p></p> There is no debate. Only peop…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-01-26:2211490:Comment:10388242017-01-26T17:41:46.662ZRich Shttps://thechainlink.org/profile/RichyRich
<p>There is no debate. Only people not from Chicago refer to Milwaukee/Damen/North as Six Corners. :) </p>
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<p>Next they'll be putting ketchup on hot dogs! </p>
<p>There is no debate. Only people not from Chicago refer to Milwaukee/Damen/North as Six Corners. :) </p>
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<p>Next they'll be putting ketchup on hot dogs! </p>