A New Legacy Bike Model for Illinois Trails - The Chainlink2024-03-28T12:58:27Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails?feed=yes&xn_auth=noRich, your toes will have nev…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8192812014-05-13T23:43:40.310ZSteve Buchtelhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SteveBuchtel119
<p>Rich, your toes will have never been better looking: just posted the Sock Guy proofs to the <a href="http://igg.me/at/maketrailswork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gallery on the campaign page</a>, and here they are in their glory:</p>
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<p>We're grateful for your support of Illinois Trail Corps!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Rich S…</cite></p>
<p>Rich, your toes will have never been better looking: just posted the Sock Guy proofs to the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://igg.me/at/maketrailswork" target="_blank">gallery on the campaign page</a>, and here they are in their glory:</p>
<p><a href="http://igg.me/at/maketrailswork" target="_blank"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35253292?profile=original" width="641" class="align-full"/></a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://igg.me/at/maketrailswork" target="_blank"><br/></a></p>
<p>We're grateful for your support of Illinois Trail Corps!<br/> <br/> <cite>Rich S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment818956"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Neat looking concept! What ballpark will be the retail price for standard build with a 2x9 (bar end or downtube shifters), dynamo hub/lights, fenders, and front rack? I'd personally rather have friction shifters on a bike like this hence the 9 speed. </p>
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<p>Just got me some Trails for Illinois socks! I've been riding a lot on some of the rail to trails these past couple years so it's good to give a little back even if not much. </p>
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</blockquote> Phil T. Hodge was pretty untr…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8193772014-05-13T23:07:18.223ZSteve Buchtelhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SteveBuchtel119
<p>Phil T. Hodge was pretty untraditional: you'd have to be to lead a crew who'd never built a bridge to build one out of steel, over active rail lines, two city streets, and a city park. Here's the pic of Phil from the video:<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35253294?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35253294?profile=original" width="600"></img></a> I showed him the sketch, and Phil asked if it could instead be a recumbent tandem that folded into a suitcase. So Levi's bike embodies a little of that…</p>
<p>Phil T. Hodge was pretty untraditional: you'd have to be to lead a crew who'd never built a bridge to build one out of steel, over active rail lines, two city streets, and a city park. Here's the pic of Phil from the video:<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35253294?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35253294?profile=original" width="600" class="align-full"/></a>I showed him the sketch, and Phil asked if it could instead be a recumbent tandem that folded into a suitcase. So Levi's bike embodies a little of that spirit.</p>
<p>Thanks for your interest in the bike and Levi's efforts.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>KevinM said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment818969"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>With the straight blade steel fork, oversized tubes and disk brakes, this sounds overbuilt for a credit card tourer. I don't think you'll find any of those features on traditional french <span>randonneuring bike.</span></p>
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</blockquote> Your bag's on its way! Trico…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8191052014-05-13T23:01:33.795ZSteve Buchtelhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SteveBuchtel119
<p>Your bag's on its way!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tricolor said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment819003"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Woah, I painted my place nearly the same color. It looks a bit gray in this picture but it's got a little more green in it.</p>
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<p>Thanks for pointing me to the site. I…</p>
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<p>Your bag's on its way!<br/> <br/> <cite>Tricolor said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment819003"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Woah, I painted my place nearly the same color. It looks a bit gray in this picture but it's got a little more green in it.</p>
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<p>Thanks for pointing me to the site. I picked up the Pro Campo bag. I'll make a nice gift for someone I know.</p>
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</blockquote> I mainly took inspiration fro…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8191042014-05-13T22:56:36.703ZLegacy Frameworkshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/LegacyFrameworks
<p>I mainly took inspiration from the traditional rando bikes in the steering geometry, tire and rack setup and overall utility.</p>
<p>It's a bit of a melting pot otherwise.</p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>KevinM said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A818969&x=1#2211490Comment818969"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>With the straight blade steel fork, oversized tubes and…</p>
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<p>I mainly took inspiration from the traditional rando bikes in the steering geometry, tire and rack setup and overall utility.</p>
<p>It's a bit of a melting pot otherwise.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>KevinM said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A818969&x=1#2211490Comment818969"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>With the straight blade steel fork, oversized tubes and disk brakes, this sounds overbuilt for a credit card tourer. I don't think you'll find any of those features on traditional french <span>randonneuring bike.</span></p>
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</blockquote> With the straight blade steel…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8189692014-05-13T20:40:57.377ZKevin Mulckyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KevinMulcky
<p>With the straight blade steel fork, oversized tubes and disk brakes, this sounds overbuilt for a credit card tourer. I don't think you'll find any of those features on traditional french <span>randonneuring bike.</span></p>
<p>With the straight blade steel fork, oversized tubes and disk brakes, this sounds overbuilt for a credit card tourer. I don't think you'll find any of those features on traditional french <span>randonneuring bike.</span></p> Thanks Rich, a basic package…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8189612014-05-13T19:23:15.497ZLegacy Frameworkshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/LegacyFrameworks
<p>Thanks Rich, a basic package which would be with 2x9 down tube shifters. With front rack, dynamo and lights, fenders would be about $1700</p>
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<p>Thanks for your support, every bit helps. </p>
<p><br></br> <cite>Rich S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment818956"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Neat looking concept! What ballpark will be the retail price for standard build with a 2x9…</p>
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<p>Thanks Rich, a basic package which would be with 2x9 down tube shifters. With front rack, dynamo and lights, fenders would be about $1700</p>
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<p>Thanks for your support, every bit helps. </p>
<p><br/> <cite>Rich S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment818956"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Neat looking concept! What ballpark will be the retail price for standard build with a 2x9 (bar end or downtube shifters), dynamo hub/lights, fenders, and front rack? I'd personally rather have friction shifters on a bike like this hence the 9 speed. </p>
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<p>Just got me some Trails for Illinois socks! I've been riding a lot on some of the rail to trails these past couple years so it's good to give a little back even if not much. </p>
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</blockquote> Neat looking concept! What ba…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8189562014-05-13T18:51:17.549ZRich Shttps://thechainlink.org/profile/RichyRich
<p>Neat looking concept! What ballpark will be the retail price for standard build with a 2x9 (bar end or downtube shifters), dynamo hub/lights, fenders, and front rack? I'd personally rather have friction shifters on a bike like this hence the 9 speed. </p>
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<p>Just got me some Trails for Illinois socks! I've been riding a lot on some of the rail to trails these past couple years so it's good to give a little back even if not much. </p>
<p>Neat looking concept! What ballpark will be the retail price for standard build with a 2x9 (bar end or downtube shifters), dynamo hub/lights, fenders, and front rack? I'd personally rather have friction shifters on a bike like this hence the 9 speed. </p>
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<p>Just got me some Trails for Illinois socks! I've been riding a lot on some of the rail to trails these past couple years so it's good to give a little back even if not much. </p> Hey Jeff and Duppie,
Here ar…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8189162014-05-13T14:30:24.965ZLegacy Frameworkshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/LegacyFrameworks
<p>Hey Jeff and Duppie, </p>
<p>Here are some of the details - we are currently starting on a prototype, so things may be adjusted.</p>
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<p><em>Construction:</em></p>
<p>Double Butted Chromolly TrueTemper (made in USA) Main tubes - Road Oversized</p>
<p>1 1/8 Steerer on a brased lugged fork</p>
<p>TIG welded frame - with the geometry to allow the possibility of lugs</p>
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<p><em>Geometry</em></p>
<p>Two sizes to begin with - 53 and 56 cm (c-c)</p>
<p>0 degree top tube, around 73…</p>
<p>Hey Jeff and Duppie, </p>
<p>Here are some of the details - we are currently starting on a prototype, so things may be adjusted.</p>
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<p><em>Construction:</em></p>
<p>Double Butted Chromolly TrueTemper (made in USA) Main tubes - Road Oversized</p>
<p>1 1/8 Steerer on a brased lugged fork</p>
<p>TIG welded frame - with the geometry to allow the possibility of lugs</p>
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<p><em>Geometry</em></p>
<p>Two sizes to begin with - 53 and 56 cm (c-c)</p>
<p>0 degree top tube, around 73 degree head tube, around 100cm wheelbase</p>
<p>Shooting for square geometry - so 53 seat tube and 53 top tube (c-c)</p>
<p>Low trail - its main take-away from the Historic French Bikes</p>
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<p><em>Components</em></p>
<p>650b Wheels w/ 43 - 45mm tires - Best fit for these two frame sizes - it limits options, but they are getting much better.</p>
<p>Disc Brakes - Advantages in keeping away from sloppy trail conditions, higher performance on quicker rides and with a little added weight. They are also a little more convenient when (traditionally) you are loading most of your stuff right at your fork crown - it can get tight with rack, bag, fenders and light.</p>
<p>Lighting: Dynamo Hubs would come standard on these bikes. Bright Busch&Muller LED headlight and tail light with a rider supplied battery back-up. The Front light will be attached to the front rack and the rear to the fender.</p>
<p>Drivetrain: We wanted to have options - so this will be a deraileured drivetrain. 2 x 10 at the most and 1 x 8 or 9 at the least. Options for STI, bar end or down tube shifters. And definite possibilities for a internal 8 or 11 with belt drive.</p>
<p>Keep the Questions coming and we will update everyone on the progress. </p>
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<p>And please consider joining me in supporting the <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/making-trails-work-illinois-trail-corps" target="_blank">Illinois Trail Corps</a></p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jeff Schneider said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment818903"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Any details about frame geometry and construction? Provision for lighting on those 150 mile overnight tours? Finally, what is the advantage of disc brakes for this purpose?</p>
<p>Nice idea, I hope you do well with it.</p>
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</blockquote> Thanks for your Support! The…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8187462014-05-13T14:00:56.460ZLegacy Frameworkshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/LegacyFrameworks
<p>Thanks for your Support! The bag will certainly be appreciated. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tricolor said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment819003"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Woah, I painted my place nearly the same color. It looks a bit gray in this picture but it's got a little more green in it.</p>
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<p>Thanks for pointing me to the site. I picked up the Pro Campo bag. I'll make a nice…</p>
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<p>Thanks for your Support! The bag will certainly be appreciated. <br/> <br/> <cite>Tricolor said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-new-legacy-bike-model-for-illinois-trails#2211490Comment819003"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Woah, I painted my place nearly the same color. It looks a bit gray in this picture but it's got a little more green in it.</p>
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<p>Thanks for pointing me to the site. I picked up the Pro Campo bag. I'll make a nice gift for someone I know.</p>
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</blockquote> Very nice Levitag:thechainlink.org,2014-05-13:2211490:Comment:8188242014-05-13T13:52:01.363ZCharlie Didricksonhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/CharlieDidrickson
<p>Very nice Levi</p>
<p>Very nice Levi</p>