A Dutch bike store dies, a bicycle shop cafe is born - The Chainlink2024-03-29T06:22:36Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-dutch-bike-store-dies-a-bicycle-shop-cafe-is-born?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A464170&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI would be more interested in…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-10:2211490:Comment:4648542011-10-10T12:56:00.464ZDoug Hayneshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DougHaynes
I would be more interested in hearing answers to the questions I asked here than e-mailing you for them...<br></br>
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<cite>Michael Salvatore said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-dutch-bike-store-dies-a-bicycle-shop-cafe-is-born?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A464597&x=1#2211490Comment464357"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hey Everyone,</p>
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<p>Thanks for the support and the feedback.</p>
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<p>And if you have critiques or…</p>
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I would be more interested in hearing answers to the questions I asked here than e-mailing you for them...<br/>
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<cite>Michael Salvatore said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-dutch-bike-store-dies-a-bicycle-shop-cafe-is-born?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A464597&x=1#2211490Comment464357"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hey Everyone,</p>
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<p>Thanks for the support and the feedback.</p>
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<p>And if you have critiques or questions I would love to hear more...</p>
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<p>info@heritagebicycles.com</p>
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</blockquote> I almost never get anywhere n…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-09:2211490:Comment:4645972011-10-09T06:04:17.851Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>I almost never get anywhere near Lakeview any more (except for occasionally on a Saturday night) but hooray for the concept of a café-slash-bike shop (or a café-slash-anything.)</p>
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<p><em>...In happier news, Michael Salvatore is getting ready to open Heritage Bicycles in Lakeview, offering bikes that are hand built in Humboldt Park, as well as an in-house cafe - a first for Chicago:</em></p>
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<p>I almost never get anywhere near Lakeview any more (except for occasionally on a Saturday night) but hooray for the concept of a café-slash-bike shop (or a café-slash-anything.)</p>
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<p><em>...In happier news, Michael Salvatore is getting ready to open Heritage Bicycles in Lakeview, offering bikes that are hand built in Humboldt Park, as well as an in-house cafe - a first for Chicago:</em></p>
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<p> </p> Hey Everyone,
Thanks for th…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-09:2211490:Comment:4643572011-10-09T05:29:38.568ZMichael Salvatorehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MichaelSalvatore
<p>Hey Everyone,</p>
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<p>Thanks for the support and the feedback.</p>
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<p>And if you have critiques or questions I would love to hear more...</p>
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<p>info@heritagebicycles.com</p>
<p>Hey Everyone,</p>
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<p>Thanks for the support and the feedback.</p>
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<p>And if you have critiques or questions I would love to hear more...</p>
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<p>info@heritagebicycles.com</p> A500 is just a technical desc…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-08:2211490:Comment:4641702011-10-08T17:29:40.115ZJhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/J
<p>A500 is just a technical descriptor for the steel grade. It's commonly used in construction in its square and rectangular cross section (as opposed to round) variants. It's heavy and strong and easy enough to weld.</p>
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<p>Look, it's the only way to locally fab a bike at this price point. Buyers will go for these based on any number of factors before frame material: the concept, the coffee in the shop, the aesthetic sensibility, the folks who work there, etc. Nothing wrong with…</p>
<p>A500 is just a technical descriptor for the steel grade. It's commonly used in construction in its square and rectangular cross section (as opposed to round) variants. It's heavy and strong and easy enough to weld.</p>
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<p>Look, it's the only way to locally fab a bike at this price point. Buyers will go for these based on any number of factors before frame material: the concept, the coffee in the shop, the aesthetic sensibility, the folks who work there, etc. Nothing wrong with that. </p>
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<p><a target="_blank" href="http://bikeportland.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/walmartOpa.jpg"><img class="align-full" src="http://bikeportland.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/walmartOpa.jpg"/></a></p>
<p><br/>I suspect that this "Hollandia" isn't structurally inferior. It's $249 and comes with all sorts of city bike goodies... and it's sold by Walmart. For that matter, for those shopping strictly on price, $80 department store cruisers (as opposed to cheap geared bikes) aren't significantly differently spec'd.<br/><br/>But these aren't the same target markets. </p>
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<p> </p> That frame has past petite an…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-08:2211490:Comment:4643112011-10-08T12:50:34.980ZDoug Hayneshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DougHaynes
<p>That frame has past petite and is more for children with ape like arms... </p>
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<p>Check out what the distance from saddle to a raised crank arm is, that bike does not look comfortable for anyone. They are also calling it a mixtie; which is it is not. a mixtie is a step-through frame that has an extra set of stays. That frame not only has no extra stays but has a extra short seat tube which means that it is going to have to have a ton of seat post showing in order to fit anyone…</p>
<p>That frame has past petite and is more for children with ape like arms... </p>
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<p>Check out what the distance from saddle to a raised crank arm is, that bike does not look comfortable for anyone. They are also calling it a mixtie; which is it is not. a mixtie is a step-through frame that has an extra set of stays. That frame not only has no extra stays but has a extra short seat tube which means that it is going to have to have a ton of seat post showing in order to fit anyone properly. With a super tall seat post and the super low seat stays ans no extra stays that bike is going to be less stable then a regular step-through let alone a mixtie...</p>
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<p>What Chicago frame builder designed that bike? Or is it just some metal fab shop who is turning out 'bikes?' I am going to guess metal fab shop because based on the price that is not a hand built frame and no frame builder I know in Chicago would produce that...</p>
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<p>Listen, I am all for more bike shops and I am definitely all for stuff being made in Chicago but that said those locally made items have to be as nice, or nicer, then what I can buy built elsewhere. You can buy a Linus at around the price point of that bike and it is going to be a properly designed bike...</p>
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<p><cite>John Greenfield said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-dutch-bike-store-dies-a-bicycle-shop-cafe-is-born#2211490Comment463991"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">This is a model for petite women, the only Heritage (Chicago-made) style and size they're producing at the moment. They plan on offering a large size of the Daisy in the near future, and eventually offering Diamond-frame models and cargo bikes. In the mean time, they'll be selling NYC-made Bowery Lane bikes in diamond-frame and step-through styles, in various sizes.</div>
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</blockquote> In a first version of a reply…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-08:2211490:Comment:4644082011-10-08T08:03:26.026ZAllen Wrenchhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AWrench
In a first version of a reply to that question on another thread, the owner said it was A500 steel, which is structural carbon steel, the same as the steel in Chicago's hoop bike racks. I guess this must be a high tensile steel though I can't tell from Wikipedia. I bet it's comparable to lots of bike frames out there. Does anyone know more about this stuff?<br></br>
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In a first version of a reply to that question on another thread, the owner said it was A500 steel, which is structural carbon steel, the same as the steel in Chicago's hoop bike racks. I guess this must be a high tensile steel though I can't tell from Wikipedia. I bet it's comparable to lots of bike frames out there. Does anyone know more about this stuff?<br/>
<cite>Peenworm Grubologist said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-dutch-bike-store-dies-a-bicycle-shop-cafe-is-born#2211490Comment463941"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Any word on what the frame's made of?</div>
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</blockquote> Erin - I hear you. On the ot…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-08:2211490:Comment:4641992011-10-08T01:22:13.049ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
Erin - I hear you. On the other hand, those of us with a bit of extra leverage tend to have an easier time finding a frame that fits compared to someone like Julie.<br></br>
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<cite>Erin Rensink said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-dutch-bike-store-dies-a-bicycle-shop-cafe-is-born?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A464194&x=1#2211490Comment464184"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm thinking it's gorgeous - too bad I'm about 6'! Petite…</p>
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Erin - I hear you. On the other hand, those of us with a bit of extra leverage tend to have an easier time finding a frame that fits compared to someone like Julie.<br/>
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<cite>Erin Rensink said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/a-dutch-bike-store-dies-a-bicycle-shop-cafe-is-born?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A464194&x=1#2211490Comment464184"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm thinking it's gorgeous - too bad I'm about 6'! Petite cyclists of Chicago rejoice!</p>
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</blockquote> I'm 4 foot 10 inches, just sa…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-07:2211490:Comment:4641942011-10-07T23:36:37.277ZJulie Aberman (Hochstadter)https://thechainlink.org/profile/JulieHochstadter
<p>I'm 4 foot 10 inches, just sayin :))</p>
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<p>Product review?</p>
<p>I'm 4 foot 10 inches, just sayin :))</p>
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<p>Product review?</p> this 5'1 girl is drooling rig…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-07:2211490:Comment:4642812011-10-07T22:30:02.367Zsharhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/shar
this 5'1 girl is drooling right now :)
this 5'1 girl is drooling right now :) I'm thinking it's gorgeous -…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-10-07:2211490:Comment:4641842011-10-07T22:10:57.128ZErin Rensinkhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErinRensink
<p>I'm thinking it's gorgeous - too bad I'm about 6'! Petite cyclists of Chicago rejoice!</p>
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<p>I'm thinking it's gorgeous - too bad I'm about 6'! Petite cyclists of Chicago rejoice!</p>
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