14 Cyclist (1 driver) Crash in Miami Area - The Chainlink2024-03-29T05:52:30Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/7-bike-1-driver-crash-in-miami-area?feed=yes&xn_auth=noSo, i'd bet she was going 65+…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-29:2211490:Comment:11106802018-11-29T01:38:01.641Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>So, i'd bet she was going 65+ (my personal observation is in most places i've driven, most motorists go an average of 10 over the posted limit.)</p>
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<p>No way to prove it, unfortunately.</p>
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<p>So, i'd bet she was going 65+ (my personal observation is in most places i've driven, most motorists go an average of 10 over the posted limit.)</p>
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<p>No way to prove it, unfortunately.</p>
<p></p> The posted limit is 55, so I…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-28:2211490:Comment:11104582018-11-28T22:28:13.285ZMarkhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Mark314
<p>The posted limit is 55, so I guess "speed is not a factor" at least up to that.</p>
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<p>Also note how the sidewalk suddenly ends in the middle of nowhere...</p>
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<p>and the inaccessible bus stop.…</p>
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<p>The posted limit is 55, so I guess "speed is not a factor" at least up to that.</p>
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<p>Also note how the sidewalk suddenly ends in the middle of nowhere...</p>
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<p>and the inaccessible bus stop.</p>
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<p></p> i've seen less damage from a…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-27:2211490:Comment:11103572018-11-27T22:44:03.790Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>i've seen less damage from a deer @ 35mph. i'd guess 50+</p>
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<p>i've seen less damage from a deer @ 35mph. i'd guess 50+</p>
<p></p> 35+ mphtag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-27:2211490:Comment:11104502018-11-27T20:39:55.210ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>35+ mph</p>
<p>35+ mph</p> "Reasonable"
There is an app…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-27:2211490:Comment:11104482018-11-27T16:42:13.762Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>"Reasonable"</p>
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<p>There is an appalling shortage of reasonable motorists... witness how few will pull over in rain, fog, or snow.</p>
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<p>There is an appalling shortage of reasonable motorists... witness how few will pull over in rain, fog, or snow.</p>
<p></p> Agree 100%. The new Tesla Mod…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-26:2211490:Comment:11101552018-11-26T22:02:45.526ZPhillip Hutchinsonhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PhillipHutchinson
<p>Agree 100%. The new Tesla Model 3 is the worst example of this that I've seen. Every single thing in the car is controlled through the central touch screen. There is nothing on the dash where you'd normally find the speedometer, so the driver has to look to the middle of the car for everything. </p>
<p>You have to click through several menus to do normally simple things like adjust the mirrors, move the seats, adjust the climate control, etc. It feels exactly as distracting as tapping away…</p>
<p>Agree 100%. The new Tesla Model 3 is the worst example of this that I've seen. Every single thing in the car is controlled through the central touch screen. There is nothing on the dash where you'd normally find the speedometer, so the driver has to look to the middle of the car for everything. </p>
<p>You have to click through several menus to do normally simple things like adjust the mirrors, move the seats, adjust the climate control, etc. It feels exactly as distracting as tapping away on a phone while driving. </p>
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<p></p> "...distracted with something…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-26:2211490:Comment:11102472018-11-26T21:46:22.764Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>"...distracted with something in the passenger compartment..."</p>
<p>"...but doesn't remember what."</p>
<p><em><strong>Florida kills more cyclists that any other state in the union.</strong></em></p>
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<p>Oh, and of course the article Yasmeen cited mentions helmets and headphones.</p>
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<p>How fast do you think the…</p>
<p>"...distracted with something in the passenger compartment..."</p>
<p>"...but doesn't remember what."</p>
<p><em><strong>Florida kills more cyclists that any other state in the union.</strong></em></p>
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<p>Oh, and of course the article Yasmeen cited mentions helmets and headphones.</p>
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<p>How fast do you think the motorist was going to do that much damage to her car?</p> This is awful. This person s…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-26:2211490:Comment:11102442018-11-26T21:42:00.815ZPhillip Hutchinsonhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PhillipHutchinson
<p>This is awful. <span>This person should never be allowed to obtain a driver's license again.</span></p>
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<p><span>Even more awful is the immediate conclusion that "speed wasn't a factor" when I think what they really mean to say is that the driver wasn't exceeding the posted speed limit. If you look at those photos, it's hard not to conclude that a lower vehicle speed might have reduced the severity of the crash or allowed the driver to avoid it…</span></p>
<p>This is awful. <span>This person should never be allowed to obtain a driver's license again.</span></p>
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<p><span>Even more awful is the immediate conclusion that "speed wasn't a factor" when I think what they really mean to say is that the driver wasn't exceeding the posted speed limit. If you look at those photos, it's hard not to conclude that a lower vehicle speed might have reduced the severity of the crash or allowed the driver to avoid it entirely. </span></p>
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<p><span>I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but a really effective and simple solution to "sun blindness" is to slow down. If the sun is so blinding that a driver can't see 25 cyclists in the roadway after slowing down, they should pull over and wait it out, just like a reasonable person would do during a heavy downpour, dense fog, a blinding snowstorm, etc. There are many situations where the speed limit is not a safe speed to be driving. </span></p>
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<p></p> I agree, sometimes bike lane…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-26:2211490:Comment:11101532018-11-26T21:38:21.121ZYasmeenhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/YasmeenSchuller
<p><span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #000000; cursor: text; font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">I agree, sometimes bike lane infrastructure contributes to danger…</span></p>
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<p>I struggle with the sunrise defense when the sunrise was an hour and a half before the crash. I feel like there's a protective defense that happens for the motorist. She wouldn't admit to what distracted her either. </p> SR-84 is basically a divided,…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-11-26:2211490:Comment:11101502018-11-26T21:27:45.336ZMarkhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Mark314
<p>SR-84 is basically a divided, one-way, three-lane expressway frontage road that runs along I-595. There are sporadic 2-foot wide bike lanes that appear to be an after-thought in the road design. I drove it a couple years ago and was amazed by how dangerous this was for a marked bike lane. Add in the blinding sunrise into the mix and tragically, this was bound to happen.</p>
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<p>SR-84 is basically a divided, one-way, three-lane expressway frontage road that runs along I-595. There are sporadic 2-foot wide bike lanes that appear to be an after-thought in the road design. I drove it a couple years ago and was amazed by how dangerous this was for a marked bike lane. Add in the blinding sunrise into the mix and tragically, this was bound to happen.</p>
<p><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/Sx5pmrr9Su12" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://goo.gl/maps/Sx5pmrr9Su12</a></p>