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Nearly every morning, I witness 40-foot trucks driving on the Lake Front Trail. The trucks take up the entire width of the path, and knock over tree branches onto unsuspecting joggers and bikers. They are creating a dangerous situation by funneling two way running/biking traffic into the narrow shoulder, while blocking view of the oncoming lane. I should also note that the trucks are moving, and not just parked on the trail. How are they even getting access to the trail, and who is continuing to allow this to happen?

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Michael, all of the gains that bicycling has made in this city in the past 15 years have happened because someone spoke up about something that wasn't good enough, or safe enough.

Have you ever considered using your bicycle as your primary transportation, rather than just for sport and fitness? It's a very different landscape out there if you have to face the same challenges day in and day out, and unless you've been in Adam's shoes, I don't think you're going to be able to relate.

Michael B said:

If only you could take your own advice.

h' 1.0 said:

I have yet to find a single "whine" of Adam's to be other than legitimate.

Ever heard of just staying out of threads that don't personally interest you?

Michael A said:

Maurice, no one is saying that this is not a hazard, we are all just shaming a certain member who thinks this forum is his personal whine list.........

You guys need to learn to share the trail. There are solutions to the delivery truck lumbering down the path in the middle of the morning commute but they are expensive and inconvenient - which means they aren't better solutions. Those trucks are there because a huge block of park users, far outnumbering the bikers,  want them to be there - or, more precisely, want to be able to buy a beer and a burger while they play in the park. If there is a better solution available, the impetus to find it might start with Critical Masshole Whining but it will end with somebody deciding to be constructive and look for it.

Being a petulant child only works if you need your nappies changed or if you have over-indulgent parents unwilling to tell you 'No." Rest assured that the Park District and the hordes of park users are willing to tell the bikers to fuck off and die if we can't find a way to share. Perhaps, instead of indulging your inner child with the endless, "waaa, trucks, waaa, cars, waaa, pedestrians" whinge, it would be more constructive to turn your outer adult loose on finding a solution that works better for everyone who wants to use the park.

Using the apron instead of the trail is very problematic. From the north, it doesn't extend to the Cafe. From the south there is no vehicle access. At any time, it's liable to be cluttered with sleeping/sunning people (who care no more for your inconvenience than you do theirs) and they don't move or don't move quickly. You may not care about the problems it presents but rest assured the grownups in the room do.

Scheduling the deliveries in the middle of the night is also very problematic. It's illegal, not that this counts for much in Chicago but it often does in Springfield. It's far more expensive in so many ways, not to mention the fact that the restaurant workers, delivery truck drivers and cops required to effect the night deliveries will be more than a little resentful at having to give up their day jobs because the bikers couldn't be bothered to share the trail for a few seconds on their vital to the needs of the community commute.

Think solutions, not complaints. You folks aren't stupid, if you know of a rational and affordable solution that meets the needs of all the park users, put it forth. Otherwise, shappap and peddle.

It's a beach.

Why don't they bring the beer on a boat, or some amphibious vehicle?
They could come up the sand from the water.

Problem solved ... hahahahahahaha (for those whose sarcasm detector is broken).

Probably wouldn't be such an issue if it were a Fat Tire truck delivering some nice Ranger IPA!

The delivery trucks are from distributors, bud light pays to advertise on em. They deliver all different brands of beer at once, saving poor Adam the inconvenience of many different brands individually driving trucks on his bike path.

shappap?

Reboot Oxnard said:

You guys need to learn to share the trail. There are solutions to the delivery truck lumbering down the path in the middle of the morning commute but they are expensive and inconvenient - which means they aren't better solutions. Those trucks are there because a huge block of park users, far outnumbering the bikers,  want them to be there - or, more precisely, want to be able to buy a beer and a burger while they play in the park. If there is a better solution available, the impetus to find it might start with Critical Masshole Whining but it will end with somebody deciding to be constructive and look for it.

Being a petulant child only works if you need your nappies changed or if you have over-indulgent parents unwilling to tell you 'No." Rest assured that the Park District and the hordes of park users are willing to tell the bikers to fuck off and die if we can't find a way to share. Perhaps, instead of indulging your inner child with the endless, "waaa, trucks, waaa, cars, waaa, pedestrians" whinge, it would be more constructive to turn your outer adult loose on finding a solution that works better for everyone who wants to use the park.

Using the apron instead of the trail is very problematic. From the north, it doesn't extend to the Cafe. From the south there is no vehicle access. At any time, it's liable to be cluttered with sleeping/sunning people (who care no more for your inconvenience than you do theirs) and they don't move or don't move quickly. You may not care about the problems it presents but rest assured the grownups in the room do.

Scheduling the deliveries in the middle of the night is also very problematic. It's illegal, not that this counts for much in Chicago but it often does in Springfield. It's far more expensive in so many ways, not to mention the fact that the restaurant workers, delivery truck drivers and cops required to effect the night deliveries will be more than a little resentful at having to give up their day jobs because the bikers couldn't be bothered to share the trail for a few seconds on their vital to the needs of the community commute.

Think solutions, not complaints. You folks aren't stupid, if you know of a rational and affordable solution that meets the needs of all the park users, put it forth. Otherwise, shappap and peddle.

The fact that it's piss-water Bud Light being delivered is just salt on the wounds.

in it to win it 8.0 mi said:

Probably wouldn't be such an issue if it were a Fat Tire truck delivering some nice Ranger IPA!

My point is, if I must look at the ass-end of a truck, I would rather it be a Fat Tire truck.  And I would like for it to have Ranger IPA in it.  I don't care what else it would have in it.

You folks take everything so literal/serious/etc.  Have a chilly one and chill out. We get about 100 years here, give or take, grumpin' through it sure doesn't sound like much fun.



Cameron 7.5 mi said:

It's a rolling Bud Light billboard delivering all of the beer sold by that restaurant. Each brewery doesn't send their own truck.



Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

The fact that it's piss-water Bud Light being delivered is just salt on the wounds.

in it to win it 8.0 mi said:

Probably wouldn't be such an issue if it were a Fat Tire truck delivering some nice Ranger IPA!

Less if we get run over by a Bud Light truck.

in it to win it 8.0 mi said:

We get about 100 years here, give or take, grumpin' through it sure doesn't sound like much fun.

Would it be better if it were a PBR truck?

Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

The fact that it's piss-water Bud Light being delivered is just salt on the wounds.

in it to win it 8.0 mi said:

Probably wouldn't be such an issue if it were a Fat Tire truck delivering some nice Ranger IPA!

People still drink PBR?

Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:

Would it be better if it were a PBR truck?

Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

The fact that it's piss-water Bud Light being delivered is just salt on the wounds.

in it to win it 8.0 mi said:

Probably wouldn't be such an issue if it were a Fat Tire truck delivering some nice Ranger IPA!

Yes.  Real Men with big beer guts and old schwinn Varsity 10 speeds that they salmon up streets on the Northwest side with Tea Party bumper stickers on their sweaty backs.  Not that a skinny, athletic  tights-wearing bottle water drinking member of the elite would know this....



Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

People still drink PBR?

Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:

Would it be better if it were a PBR truck?

Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

The fact that it's piss-water Bud Light being delivered is just salt on the wounds.

in it to win it 8.0 mi said:

Probably wouldn't be such an issue if it were a Fat Tire truck delivering some nice Ranger IPA!

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