Any Chainlinkers out there riding a SRAM Automatix? What's your experience and what type of brakes are you using? I'm of the less-is-more school, but am hesitant to go single speed - thoughts / opinions / experience on single speed commuting in Chicago are welcome as well.
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Permalink Reply by Tony Adams 7 mi (dirtbag hipstr) on February 26, 2013 at 9:46am Wow! I've been (very slowly) working on a two speed project - haven't gotten around to building the wheel yet. I was gonna use a SA Kickback, but after a wretched experience with an SA three speed, I've been kind of leery. This thing seems like a better deal and better technology - and sort of local. I think I'm changing my plan!
Permalink Reply by Casey Carnes on February 26, 2013 at 10:27am I am using a bendix red band 2 speed automatic (kick-back)on a cruiser. It is a lot of fun and has been bomproof, although it weighs about a ton and doesn't have a great sealing system, so I rebuild it once a year.
You can find these super cheap, and mine has been running for about 40 years! The Sturmey Archer S2C has gotten some bad press for failing in dangerous ways, but it has been said that the current versions have been of better quality.
http://mccraw.co.uk/sram-automatix-review/ is a good write-up on the SRAM automatix. Notice that this hub too is not sealed so it will require periodic maintanence during the winter months. Coaster brakes are the way to go, way fun and make up for some of the hub's weight.
Just my two cents...
Permalink Reply by Lee Roy Carrier on February 26, 2013 at 11:52am Right on, the old 2-Speed Bendix hubs on vintage Schwinns!!!
They are indeed heavy, work well, and are inexpensive. Be aware, for ideal tuning of braking and shifting, you will need to find a shop with the old Bendix 2-Speed tools. We can do that at Mikes Bikes in Palatine. Also, there are 3 different gearing's I am aware of... Red, I believe the most common for 26" wheel, Blue, and Yellow. I think the Yellow is for a 20" wheel bike.
Permalink Reply by Casey Carnes on February 26, 2013 at 12:13pm
Good Point, I did end up making a tool out of an old socket to make the bendix easier to dissassemble, I can be done without it, but its not easy.
The red band and yellow band are both underdrive hubs 1:0.67 with a direct drive second gear. The red band is older (up to 1964) and uses the traditional wedge-type coaster brake and the yellow uses a drum coaster brake. These were used on 24" and 26" wheel bikes
The blue band came on 20" bikes (Krates) and is an overdrive hub with a drum coaster brake; this has a direct drive 1st and 1.5:1 2nd gear.
Permalink Reply by Will G - 10mi on February 26, 2013 at 12:18pm I commute on a single free wheel. I will admit that there are times when the wind is really blowing (either against me or with me) that I wish I had another gear (because I am either struggling to push the pedals or because I am spinning out).
This hub looks pretty good. I hadn't come across it in my preliminary research an internal hub options. Please let us know how it goes if you pull the trigger.
Permalink Reply by Will G - 10mi on February 26, 2013 at 12:20pm
Permalink Reply by Lee Roy Carrier on February 26, 2013 at 1:09pm Awesome information!!! Thank you!
Casey Carnes said:
Good Point, I did end up making a tool out of an old socket to make the bendix easier to dissassemble, I can be done without it, but its not easy.
The red band and yellow band are both underdrive hubs 1:0.67 with a direct drive second gear. The red band is older (up to 1964) and uses the traditional wedge-type coaster brake and the yellow uses a drum coaster brake. These were used on 24" and 26" wheel bikes
The blue band came on 20" bikes (Krates) and is an overdrive hub with a drum coaster brake; this has a direct drive 1st and 1.5:1 2nd gear.
Permalink Reply by Comrade Cycles on February 26, 2013 at 1:57pm We got to test some early prototype models and they worked great, but we didn't use them for any extended periods. We also recently built a wheel with this hub for a fella who really loves it.
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