I've been seeing lots of bikers riding against traffic. I tried it myself & felt a little safer. I believe cars are more likely to see you & you can see the driver. I could anticipate who might run me over & move onto the sidewalk.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Schmoe on November 14, 2012 at 3:10pm 1. It's illegal
2. You're no safer
3. You're putting law-abiding cyclists at risk who are riding with traffic, and then have to go around you.
4. How are you going to "anticipate" who's going to run you over? And riding on the sidewalk is illegal anyways.
5. Feeling safe and being safe are 2 totally different things.
6. Ride in the street, with traffic, or don't ride.
Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on November 14, 2012 at 3:11pm No, they're less likely to see you because they're not expecting someone to be coming straight at them.
Also, basic physics is NOT in your favor if you salmon. When you and an approaching vehicle are going towards each other, you have less time to react, a lot less time than if a vehicle was approaching from behind.
Just get a mirror and ride with the traffic, please. You'd be doing other cyclists a favor, too, because they have less time to react if you're coming straight at them. Wouldn't you it bother you if you seriously injured or killed another cyclist because you were riding the wrong way? I believe that you could be legally liable for that person's injuries because you were breaking the law.
Would any of our Chainlinkers with legal knowledge care to speak to this issue?
Permalink Reply by notoriousDUG on November 14, 2012 at 3:14pm Don't be a moron.
You are not safer due to the fact that you are now entering intersections from the opposite position people are looking as well as the higher closing speed. If people pay so little attention that they don't see you as they are over taking you do you think they are more or less likely to see you when the time it takes to close the distance between you lessens?
You are also forcing all of the people who ride as they are supposed to either into the door zone or out into traffic which, in itself, is kind of a jerk move.
(I really hope this thread doesn't disintegrate...but here goes)
Well....it may 'feel a little safer' (I kind of agree) but it's not right.
It puts an oncoming cyclist (who is obeying the law) in a very awkward
position when you appoach and pass them. Who veers out into traffic ?
what if you both do that at the same time ?
OK..I'll stop here because I can sense that many others will chime in on this
DB
Permalink Reply by Lisa Curcio 4.0 mi on November 14, 2012 at 3:16pm Isn't this the same poster who started the headphones thread and then disappeared while everyone took out after one another?
Permalink Reply by Davo on November 14, 2012 at 3:30pm Should we anticipate the thread about riding at night without lights or will blowing through traffic signals/stop signs come next? I'd like to know where all the salmoning is occurring. It doesn't seem that prevalent on N Damen where I normally ride.
Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on November 14, 2012 at 3:53pm Lately I've seen salmoning on a regular basis on Wabash in the Loop - specifically on the east side of the street between the El support columns and parked cars between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. Yikes!
Davo said:
I'd like to know where all the salmoning is occurring. It doesn't seem that prevalent on N Damen where I normally ride.
Permalink Reply by BruceBikes on November 14, 2012 at 3:55pm If a troll sh!ts in the woods and no one is around to smell it, does it still have an odor?
Permalink Reply by Tony Adams 6.6 mi on November 14, 2012 at 3:58pm Salmoning is more prevalent in lower income neighborhoods. That has been my observation anyway. I see a lot of it on the south side, especially in places such as Pilsen and Englewood. I pretty much never see it in Lincoln Park.
Davo said:
Should we anticipate the thread about riding at night without lights or will blowing through traffic signals/stop signs come next? I'd like to know where all the salmoning is occurring. It doesn't seem that prevalent on N Damen where I normally ride.
Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on November 14, 2012 at 4:01pm You've never seen it at night in the bike lanes on Halsted through Boystown? I have.
Tony Adams said:
Salmoning is more prevalent in lower income neighborhoods. That has been my observation anyway. I see a lot of it on the south side, especially in places such as Pilsen and Englewood. I pretty much never see it in Lincoln Park.
Davo said:Should we anticipate the thread about riding at night without lights or will blowing through traffic signals/stop signs come next? I'd like to know where all the salmoning is occurring. It doesn't seem that prevalent on N Damen where I normally ride.
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