Never pull alongside a vehicle in a right turn only lane - The Chainlink2024-03-29T09:41:59Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/never-pull-alongside-a-vehicle-in-a-right-turn-only-lane?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A1065235&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHoooooLeeeeey Fuck also.tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-08:2211490:Comment:10657372017-07-08T19:22:22.661ZTom A.K.https://thechainlink.org/profile/TomKrystyn
HoooooLeeeeey Fuck also.
HoooooLeeeeey Fuck also. I'd agree that it's safest to…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-08:2211490:Comment:10656402017-07-08T18:16:11.519ZPaul Lazzarohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PaulLazzaro
<p>I'd agree that it's safest to be assertive. I'm too happy to be aggressive, though ☺</p>
<p>I'd agree that it's safest to be assertive. I'm too happy to be aggressive, though ☺</p> I'm very interested to read t…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-08:2211490:Comment:10658892017-07-08T16:05:40.532ZKathttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Kat770
<p>I'm very interested to read this study, especially because I specifically logged on to Chainlink tonight to vent about the distinct gender lines in my fellow commuters who obey traffic signals down Lincoln (and it's mostly women waiting with me at the reds).</p>
<p>I'm very interested to read this study, especially because I specifically logged on to Chainlink tonight to vent about the distinct gender lines in my fellow commuters who obey traffic signals down Lincoln (and it's mostly women waiting with me at the reds).</p> This happened to me the other…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-08:2211490:Comment:10657142017-07-08T13:51:14.348ZEric Masekhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/EricMasek
This happened to me the other day. No signal else I wouldn't have been in that situation.<br />
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This happened to me the other day. No signal else I wouldn't have been in that situation.<br />
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<a href="https://youtu.be/IyR0RQdnmDQ" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/IyR0RQdnmDQ</a> Yeah, I thought I'd seen that…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-07:2211490:Comment:10653642017-07-07T18:45:28.506ZSkip Montanaro 0mihttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SkipMontanaro92
<p>Yeah, I thought I'd seen that mentioned in some article in the wake of Anastasia Kondrasheva's death.</p>
<p>Yeah, I thought I'd seen that mentioned in some article in the wake of Anastasia Kondrasheva's death.</p> The recent DePaul study, Poli…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-07:2211490:Comment:10655582017-07-07T17:15:10.339ZBrendan Kevenideshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Brendan723
<p>The recent <a href="https://las.depaul.edu/centers-and-institutes/chaddick-institute-for-metropolitan-development/research-and-publications/Documents/PoliciesForPedaling-120816-FNL.pdf" target="_blank">DePaul study, Policies for Pedaling</a>, cites a London study that apparently found that "women are more vulnerable to truck collisions due to their tendency to be less likely to disobey red traffic signals than men. By going through a red traffic signal before it turns green, men are less…</p>
<p>The recent <a href="https://las.depaul.edu/centers-and-institutes/chaddick-institute-for-metropolitan-development/research-and-publications/Documents/PoliciesForPedaling-120816-FNL.pdf" target="_blank">DePaul study, Policies for Pedaling</a>, cites a London study that apparently found that "women are more vulnerable to truck collisions due to their tendency to be less likely to disobey red traffic signals than men. By going through a red traffic signal before it turns green, men are less likely to be caught in a truck driver’s blind spot. Instead, they get in front of the truck before it starts to enter the intersection."</p>
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<p>Interesting.</p> Well said.tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-07:2211490:Comment:10653512017-07-07T14:20:27.613ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>Well said.</p>
<p>Well said.</p> A lot of cyclists need to lea…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-06:2211490:Comment:10652642017-07-06T21:14:08.527ZWaymond Smithhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/WaymondSmith
<p>A lot of cyclists need to learn the rules of the road and bicycle safety (these are not the same). Cyclists need to learn how to control the lane, signal their intentions, ride predictably. </p>
<p>I know we get that sense of freedom when on a bike, however we need to be safe, follow the rules of the road. We as cyclists want the motorists to respect our right to be on the road, so we we to follow the rules. </p>
<p>I'm not starting a debate about motorists with poor driving skills and…</p>
<p>A lot of cyclists need to learn the rules of the road and bicycle safety (these are not the same). Cyclists need to learn how to control the lane, signal their intentions, ride predictably. </p>
<p>I know we get that sense of freedom when on a bike, however we need to be safe, follow the rules of the road. We as cyclists want the motorists to respect our right to be on the road, so we we to follow the rules. </p>
<p>I'm not starting a debate about motorists with poor driving skills and behavior, we must remember that we are the most vulnerable!</p> Whether it is a true right-tu…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-06:2211490:Comment:10652472017-07-06T20:44:29.986Zadhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AdrianRohrer
<p>Whether it is a true right-turn lane, or merely a standard second lane where someone is making a right turn, makes a pretty big difference in many cases. </p>
<p>On Washington heading east into the loop, where there's a right turn lane near Wacker, the bicycle lane is specifically designed to keep cyclists out of the right-turn only lane. A cyclist at that intersection simply shouldn't be in the right turn lane unless they're turning right (yet cyclists do it anyway).</p>
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<p>Whether it is a true right-turn lane, or merely a standard second lane where someone is making a right turn, makes a pretty big difference in many cases. </p>
<p>On Washington heading east into the loop, where there's a right turn lane near Wacker, the bicycle lane is specifically designed to keep cyclists out of the right-turn only lane. A cyclist at that intersection simply shouldn't be in the right turn lane unless they're turning right (yet cyclists do it anyway).</p>
<p>In many intersections, though, the bicycle lane dumps you out into the right lane of a 2-lane street immediately before the intersection. It's much easier in those cases to get on the right-hand side of a car turning right---especially if the car didn't signal the turn, or did so last minute when the cyclist was already in the car's blind spot. As Anne notes, that's apparently how Anastasia Kondrasheva was killed. </p>
<p>That said, as a cyclist, I think it's worth exercising caution in intersections where right turns from a standard lane are common (like Damen and Division, where I've seen more close calls than I care to think about). My rule of thumb is if I'm behind a car that has its right turn blinker on, I will NOT go to the right side of that car close to an intersection no matter what. </p>
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<p></p> "Consequently, I stay out of…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-07-06:2211490:Comment:10652392017-07-06T20:31:50.159ZDuppiehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Duppie
<p><span>"Consequently, I stay out of that situation, period. I will either stay way back or go on the sidewalk or stop until they turn."</span></p>
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<p><span>That is the only right answer for two reasons:</span></p>
<p><span>1. It is not about who is right according to the rules off the road, it is about getting home safely to your family.</span></p>
<p><span>2. You are the only person responsible for your safety. Don't rely on that driver to keep you safe.</span></p>
<p><span>"Consequently, I stay out of that situation, period. I will either stay way back or go on the sidewalk or stop until they turn."</span></p>
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<p><span>That is the only right answer for two reasons:</span></p>
<p><span>1. It is not about who is right according to the rules off the road, it is about getting home safely to your family.</span></p>
<p><span>2. You are the only person responsible for your safety. Don't rely on that driver to keep you safe.</span></p>