Humboldt Park cyclist attacked - The Chainlink2024-03-29T01:05:56Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/humboldt-park-cyclist-attacked?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A806043&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFred, just thank God nothing…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-31:2211490:Comment:8071172014-03-31T02:36:00.803ZKris Hendryhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KrisHendry
<p>Fred, just thank God nothing worse happened. I'm debating on buying one of those giant chain locks that I could use as a whip if needed. I have relatives that live in Oak Park and I'm not sure if I could make the trip safely.</p>
<p>Fred, just thank God nothing worse happened. I'm debating on buying one of those giant chain locks that I could use as a whip if needed. I have relatives that live in Oak Park and I'm not sure if I could make the trip safely.</p> Last fall, I was riding home…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-30:2211490:Comment:8070022014-03-30T22:03:55.860ZFred Lenhoffhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/FredLenhoff
<p>Last fall, I was riding home from the Loop down Augusta (to River Forest). Friday, about 6, still light out. I had just gone under the train overpass near Homan, when I saw about 10-15 kids on the sidewalk. None looked to be over 12-13 years old. And I remember thinking, "Hey, Ebert just died, maybe the West Side is about to erupt into violence?" (Ha.) Anyway, when I drew closer, they swarmed into the street. One pushed a rolling garbage can into the side of my bike, nearly knocking me off…</p>
<p>Last fall, I was riding home from the Loop down Augusta (to River Forest). Friday, about 6, still light out. I had just gone under the train overpass near Homan, when I saw about 10-15 kids on the sidewalk. None looked to be over 12-13 years old. And I remember thinking, "Hey, Ebert just died, maybe the West Side is about to erupt into violence?" (Ha.) Anyway, when I drew closer, they swarmed into the street. One pushed a rolling garbage can into the side of my bike, nearly knocking me off and breaking the fender. Another wacked me in the head with a big blue bag filled with what felt like telephone books. Nearly knocked my glasses off--luckily they stayed on, didn't want to have to stop. Not sure what these Lord of the Flies bastards were up to--just messing around, or looking to steal something--but luckily nothing fell (including my glasses) so I was able to keep going -- cursing them over my shoulder the whole way.</p>
<p>Coda: I now ride Fulton west to around Sacramento, then take Lake St.</p>
<p>Coda II: No comment on whether this is the knockout game or wilding or what have you. Whatever it is, whatever color they are/I am, doesn't matter... it sucks. I think we can all agree on that...</p> Bear spray is plenty strong--…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-29:2211490:Comment:8064602014-03-29T04:12:20.041Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>Bear spray is plenty strong-- it's just not all that practical to use it while on a bicycle.</p>
<p>Very good chance that you'll spray yourself if there's any wind, for one thing.</p>
<p>For walking around in questionable places, sure.</p>
<p>Bear spray is plenty strong-- it's just not all that practical to use it while on a bicycle.</p>
<p>Very good chance that you'll spray yourself if there's any wind, for one thing.</p>
<p>For walking around in questionable places, sure.</p> That's interesting H'. I rec…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-29:2211490:Comment:8067842014-03-29T02:41:58.715ZKris Hendryhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KrisHendry
<p>That's interesting H'. I recently took a cab home from the office and the driver kept bragging to me that he didn't need the GPS, it's all just a grid. I consider the bear spray about as strong as whats issued to law enforcement. I took a women's self defense class back in college and they recommended it.</p>
<p>That's interesting H'. I recently took a cab home from the office and the driver kept bragging to me that he didn't need the GPS, it's all just a grid. I consider the bear spray about as strong as whats issued to law enforcement. I took a women's self defense class back in college and they recommended it.</p> I'm not sure how bear spray w…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-29:2211490:Comment:8064532014-03-29T02:24:34.339Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>I'm not sure how bear spray would prevent the kind of attacks we're talking about here, when someone runs out unexpectedly and whacks you with a board.</p>
<p>Purists consider Chicago to be divided into three wedges, with everything between the north branch and the south branch constituting the west side.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Kris Hendry said:…</cite></p>
<p>I'm not sure how bear spray would prevent the kind of attacks we're talking about here, when someone runs out unexpectedly and whacks you with a board.</p>
<p>Purists consider Chicago to be divided into three wedges, with everything between the north branch and the south branch constituting the west side.<br/> <br/> <cite>Kris Hendry said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/humboldt-park-cyclist-attacked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A806649&x=1#2211490Comment806649"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Not sure of the legality but I carry bear spray. Which is much stronger than standard mace. Is Humbolt Park considered the North side or West side???</p>
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</blockquote> Not sure of the legality but…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-28:2211490:Comment:8066492014-03-28T22:46:34.786ZKris Hendryhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KrisHendry
<p>Not sure of the legality but I carry bear spray. Which is much stronger than standard mace. Is Humbolt Park considered the North side or West side???</p>
<p>Not sure of the legality but I carry bear spray. Which is much stronger than standard mace. Is Humbolt Park considered the North side or West side???</p> Serge Lubomudrov said:
Well s…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-28:2211490:Comment:8066312014-03-28T18:36:52.303Zmillenial removing Bernie tattoohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/envanex
<br/><br/><cite>Serge Lubomudrov said:</cite>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/humboldt-park-cyclist-attacked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A806431&x=1#2211490Comment806431"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well said, Davis.</p>
<p>As I've always thought, if one treats people like animals, they will behave like animals. Why anyone surprised?</p>
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<p>Who is treating whom like animals?</p>
<br/><br/><cite>Serge Lubomudrov said:</cite>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/humboldt-park-cyclist-attacked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A806431&x=1#2211490Comment806431"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well said, Davis.</p>
<p>As I've always thought, if one treats people like animals, they will behave like animals. Why anyone surprised?</p>
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<p>Who is treating whom like animals?</p> Davis! thank you for writing…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-28:2211490:Comment:8065262014-03-28T16:02:37.569ZTony Adamshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/TonyAdams
<p>Davis! thank you for writing the post I was hoping someone would write and doing it about eleven times as well as I could ever hope to do myself. Bravo.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Davis Moore said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/humboldt-park-cyclist-attacked?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A806126&page=3#2211490Comment806410"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Wow. Just wow. <br></br><br></br>Besides having some weirdly (although given you prior post, unsurprisingly) racial…</p>
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<p>Davis! thank you for writing the post I was hoping someone would write and doing it about eleven times as well as I could ever hope to do myself. Bravo.<br/> <br/> <cite>Davis Moore said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/humboldt-park-cyclist-attacked?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A806126&page=3#2211490Comment806410"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Wow. Just wow. <br/><br/>Besides having some weirdly (although given you prior post, unsurprisingly) racial undertones, that entirely misses the point. Those articles aren't arguing that "nothing is happening".<br/><br/>They're arguing that packaging the somewhat routine and fairly random assaults as some recent phenomenon such as a "knockout game" or "wilding" or whatever is a media tactic, and one that caters to a certain mentality that is always on the lookout for "the enemy", read: young black men. All of which just serves to reinforce a narrative that certain people are predisposed to certain behaviors based on their skin color. Which has another term: racism. But hey, fear sells! <br/><br/>When the truth is, the people most likely to be running around randomly jumping people are young men, living in poverty, with few job opportunities, living in underserved communities, from homes in which many of the adult male role models have been incarcerated, and in which their schools have disintegrated and their general outlook with regards to their future life and what it holds for them is relatively nil.<br/><br/>When people have nothing to lose, no shit they don't give a fuck about anyone else. But hey, let's not talk about that, cuz that's boooooring.<br/><br/>And the correlation between those factors and a certain set of skin tones has everything to do with institutionalized and structural racism and the power dynamics and structures that it perpetuates.<br/><br/>I'm not excusing anyones actions, but just seeing a story about some young black males attacking a lone guy on a bike just to fuck shit up, and leapfrogging to the "explanation" that "it's another case of that 'knockout game' they keep talking about on Fox News" and leaving it at that, is some seriously facile and latently racist bullshit. <br/><br/><br/><cite>envane (69 furlongs) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/humboldt-park-cyclist-attacked?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A806126&page=2#2211490Comment806393"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Actually, these attacks aren't entirely "random" which is why Davis Moore could post five (5) statistic- and data-free articles somehow arguing that nothing is happening. ... But, rest assured, if it were mostly whites attacking mostly non-whites, you'd never hear the end of "the knocKKKout game" on CNN, NYT, Daily Mail, etc.</p>
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</blockquote> Steven, I think the incident…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-28:2211490:Comment:8066162014-03-28T15:24:55.302ZElihttps://thechainlink.org/profile/EliNaeher
<p>Steven, I think the incident you are thinking of was the 2009 attack on Christopher Dilts. His blog is no longer online but it's on the Internet Archive <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130118034533/http://blog.christopherdilts.com/2009/08/sometimes-you-get-hit-by-a-2x4-and-robbed/" target="_blank">here</a>. He was hit with a 2x4 or baseball bat while biking on California by Humboldt Park.</p>
<p>Steven, I think the incident you are thinking of was the 2009 attack on Christopher Dilts. His blog is no longer online but it's on the Internet Archive <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130118034533/http://blog.christopherdilts.com/2009/08/sometimes-you-get-hit-by-a-2x4-and-robbed/" target="_blank">here</a>. He was hit with a 2x4 or baseball bat while biking on California by Humboldt Park.</p> Reading articles like this ma…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-27:2211490:Comment:8066842014-03-27T23:24:57.411ZKris Hendryhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KrisHendry
<p>Reading articles like this makes me scared to bike outside the boundaries I know.</p>
<p>Reading articles like this makes me scared to bike outside the boundaries I know.</p>