Tags: advocacy, bike, development, drive-thru, estate, lanes, public, real, safety
Permalink Reply by Louis K on February 2, 2012 at 9:15pm
Permalink Reply by Kevin C on February 2, 2012 at 10:00pm +1.
I expect Michele Smith will be far more interested in hearing from residents and businesses of the 43rd Ward than from people who may pass through the 43rd in their travels. The Department of Transportation will be asked to look at any kind of proposal which will affect traffic and the bike lanes, and deference will be given to the views it expresses. While the support of the alderman is important in the process of obtaining special use permits or zoning variances, the Zoning Board of Appeals is the ultimate arbiter and will hear evidence from those in favor and from those opposed. Don't approach this by just trying to organize a group of bicyclists and handing each one of them a burning torch.
You've been a member of the chainlink for all of 5 hours now.
Pace yourself.
Cameron Puetz said:
Do you do have a link to the plans or any other information?
Permalink Reply by Martin Hazard on February 3, 2012 at 12:55am Yes, every third one should wield a pitchfork for the mob to be effective. Oh, and you would do well to have some agitated large breed dogs.
Newbies.
Permalink Reply by h' 1.0 on February 3, 2012 at 1:23am Hey Charles,
See if you can get a copy of the zoning revisions that went into effect in 2003.
Particularly there were provisions to limit curb cuts in the interest of a pedestrian and disability-friendly built environment. Also, I'm not sure if presenting this as a hindrance to bicycling is your best tack-- you might want to keep the focus on the effect on disabled and elderly for maximum effect. Also, think about contacting Equip for Equality and seeing what kind of help or info they can offer.
Good luck and keep that fighting spirit.
Yeah, dude also says he owns the property next to the proposed development. Conflict of interest?
Permalink Reply by Charles Brasfort on February 3, 2012 at 8:15am Yes, 3 or 4 spots. Under their contract with the parking concessionaire, the City would have to replace those spots somewhere to "make the concessionaire whole".
Louis K said:
Looks like they will have to remove several metered parking spots to do this. I wonder who will pay for these missing spots for the next 73 years.
Permalink Reply by Charles Brasfort on February 3, 2012 at 8:19am Thanks for the thoughtful reply. In my experience at the Zoning Board of Appeals, the position of the local Alderman is given a lot of weight, as will in this case, The Dept. of Transp. as you point out. "Weight" is the key word here. The Zoning Board's decision will weigh the evidence. More evidence opposed will help kill the idea. I'm attacking the proposal on several fronts, and the interests of cyclists that use the Halsted bike lane is one key group that can add weight to the opinion against.
Kevin C said:
+1.
I expect Michele Smith will be far more interested in hearing from residents and businesses of the 43rd Ward than from people who may pass through the 43rd in their travels. The Department of Transportation will be asked to look at any kind of proposal which will affect traffic and the bike lanes, and deference will be given to the views it expresses. While the support of the alderman is important in the process of obtaining special use permits or zoning variances, the Zoning Board of Appeals is the ultimate arbiter and will hear evidence from those in favor and from those opposed. Don't approach this by just trying to organize a group of bicyclists and handing each one of them a burning torch.
You've been a member of the chainlink for all of 5 hours now.
Pace yourself.
Cameron Puetz said:Do you do have a link to the plans or any other information?
Permalink Reply by Charles Brasfort on February 3, 2012 at 8:24am In case this hasn't occurred to you already, I'll point out that my interests as a cyclist and my interests as a property owner (and a resident in that property) align perfectly in this instance. A "conflict" of interests would be when those interests do no align. Or are you bothered merely by the fact that I own property? Does that mean to you that I'm not a cyclist? Well, I don't own a car, and I probably put in more miles annually than most people here, if that helps you form a more informed opinion.
Vando said:
Yeah, dude also says he owns the property next to the proposed development. Conflict of interest?
Permalink Reply by Charles Brasfort on February 3, 2012 at 8:28am Thank you for the useful reply. Do the 2003 zoning revisions apply city-wide, or just in this Halsted Triangle area? That may be a good angle, because pedestrian use is way up around here, and there is a medical facility one block south that probably attracts the elderly and persons with limited mobility.
h' said:
Hey Charles,
See if you can get a copy of the zoning revisions that went into effect in 2003.
Particularly there were provisions to limit curb cuts in the interest of a pedestrian and disability-friendly built environment. Also, I'm not sure if presenting this as a hindrance to bicycling is your best tack-- you might want to keep the focus on the effect on disabled and elderly for maximum effect. Also, think about contacting Equip for Equality and seeing what kind of help or info they can offer.
Good luck and keep that fighting spirit.
Permalink Reply by h' 1.0 on February 3, 2012 at 9:03am City-wide, Charles. There seemed to be an overall goal to reduce curb cuts but I'm fuzzy on the details at this point.
Charles Brasfort said:
Thank you for the useful reply. Do the 2003 zoning revisions apply city-wide, or just in this Halsted Triangle area? That may be a good angle, because pedestrian use is way up around here, and there is a medical facility one block south that probably attracts the elderly and persons with limited mobility.
h' said:Hey Charles,
See if you can get a copy of the zoning revisions that went into effect in 2003.
Particularly there were provisions to limit curb cuts in the interest of a pedestrian and disability-friendly built environment. Also, I'm not sure if presenting this as a hindrance to bicycling is your best tack-- you might want to keep the focus on the effect on disabled and elderly for maximum effect. Also, think about contacting Equip for Equality and seeing what kind of help or info they can offer.
Good luck and keep that fighting spirit.
Permalink Reply by Michelle Stenzel on February 3, 2012 at 10:53am Is the property in question the low brick one in the shot below? Yes, I would absolutely join in opposition to a drive through bank there. That row of 7-8 buildings forms a nice border to the street that should be maintained continuously and developed, not interrupted, if that area wants to maintain any hope of becoming a livable, pedestrian-oriented shopping district. Curb cuts and a car-oriented business would be horrible there.
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