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How tragic.  Yet another biker dies, in this case on a route I take most days.

I want to express extend to Robert's friends and family.  Anybody here know him?

I wonder exactly where it happened and how the two collided. The road is pretty wide there I believe...

 

From the Trib:

A 26-year-old man died Wednesday night after he was hit by a car traveling in the same direction, police said. 

Robert Cann, of the 3200 block of North Southport Avenue, was pronounced dead at 7:05 p.m.

He had been traveling south on Clybourn Avenue north of Division Street and was hit by a southbound car about 6:45 p.m., police said. 

 

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Will,

IANAL, but traffic infractions are civil citations, which can be issued on the spot by the police. Manslaughter and such are criminal charges, and must be charged by the state (?) and as such requires a certain legal procedure.

Will G - 10mi said:

From the Trib article

The driver of the Mercedes was issued a citation, but was still being questioned and may face more serious charges, police said.

Great...he got a traffic ticket. Can someone with less ignorance about criminal law than myself explain why drivers are not faced with manslaughter charges when they kill pedestrians/cyclists/other drivers as a result of being idiots behind the wheel?

Totally agree - the Mercedes that is in the photo is missing part of the front fascia.  Looks like a crazy crash involving more than just that car and Bobby's bike.  

So sad

blair_ said:

Agree.

Philip - I'm so, so sorry for your loss :(


Will G - 10mi said:

The pictures on DNA Info make it look like it was a vehicular accident as well, was the cyclist just a collateral damage? 

Yes, it will take time and additional investigation before charges can be brought for something like manslaughter.  We all want people to be held accountable in these situations, and we also want it to be done correctly.  My condolences to his friends and family.  

Hello all, Jason Jenkins, Crash Support Programs Manager here at Active Trans

Once again, we're all so sorry to hear about Bobby. I just wanted Philip and anyone else who may be friends or family of Bobby's to know that our Crash Support Hotline can also connect friends and family members with qualified grief counselors.

I'd also say that we always encourage victims of crashes, witnesses, friends and or family to be very careful about discussing or speculating about the details of a crash with the press or in online forums, Facebook etc., without speaking to an attorney first. Talking about the person, who they were, what they meant, how much they’ll be missed, how much they loved cycling etc. is all pretty safe territory. But just be wary of details and speculation about the actual events of the crash. Unfortunately it's all too easy for words to get twisted around and have an unintended outcome.

Feel free to let me know if you have any specific questions.

Jason Jenkins

Crash Support Programs Manager
Active Trans

very good advice

Active Transportation Alliance said:

Hello all, Jason Jenkins, Crash Support Programs Manager here at Active Trans

Once again, we're all so sorry to hear about Bobby. I just wanted to say to Philip and anyone else who may be friends or family of Bobby's to know that our Crash Support Hotline can also connect friends and family members with qualified grief counselors.

I'd also say that we always encourage victims of crashes, witnesses, friends and or family to be very careful about discussing or speculating about the details of a crash with the press or in online forums, Facebook etc., without speaking to an attorney first. Talking about the person, who they were, what they meant, how much they’ll be missed, how much they loved cycling etc. is all pretty safe territory. But just be wary of details and speculation about the actual events of the crash. Unfortunately it's all too easy for words to get twisted around and have an unintended outcome.

Feel free to let me know if you have any specific questions.

Jason Jenkins

Crash Support Programs Manager
Active Trans

It makes me so angry that IDOT is blocking the city from installing protected bike lanes on this street.  The street is so wide, drivers often pass each other or speed and drift around the lane.  It makes it so harrowing to cycle here.

It's terrible, my sympathies. Today riding home on Grand Ave. there were many times I simply did not feel safe. It was rush hour, someone shouted "get on the sidewalk" and as a matter of fact, there were several times that I did, I just felt cars weren't making space to pass me.  I think I like bike lanes...

Can someone explain to me why IDOT is responsible for some Chicago city streets, like Clybourn where Bobby was killed.  I would think Chicago would have responsibility for everything except for things like LSD (that I believe is a state highway).

Jolondon,

I believe that all roads that are signed as state and US routes are under the jurisdiction of IDOT. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is at least essentially true.

 

So sorry to hear this. My condolensces to his family and friends.

I agree, Clybourn is usually a less stressful street for commuting. It is a shame that bike lanes aren't respected.

garth - yes I agree completely with your comments about grand ave. for me that is the shortest route home (I live at grand and augusta) and even though there are some good aspects about grand (not a lot of people seem to turn onto it or off from it) the combination of fast/rude/aggressive drivers, truck traffic, and lack of an official bike lane keep me from riding it most of the time. Even though chicago ave. and augusta have more traffic, turns and stops I feel a bit safer on them for some reason.

 

DB

Garth Liebhaber said:

It's terrible, my sympathies. Today riding home on Grand Ave. there were many times I simply did not feel safe. It was rush hour, someone shouted "get on the sidewalk" and as a matter of fact, there were several times that I did, I just felt cars weren't making space to pass me.  I think I like bike lanes...

 

It is tragic that you feel unsafe. The mayor wants Chicago to be a "bike city" but unless we protect the cyclists, we cannot gain that status. If a cyclist feels like he is in danger riding on the street, there should not be any reprecussion for riding on the sidewalk. Either a cyclist is allowed to ride on the sidewalk or the city puts in more protected bike lanes.

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