Hi knowledgeable ones:
I need to clean up my bike and need to pick up a new chain and chain clamp thingamajig. I am interested in doing most work myself. Where would you tell me to go for the best selection/price? My bike isn't high end, so am looking for reasonable prices. Are there some favorite places out there?
Thanks for your input.
For the most part I think the argument between you two is innane and pointless but that's how all internet arguments are! Yay! But Dug let me question you on one of your quotes...
"You are what is one of the most annoying of all people out there when it comes to people who own shops or provide a legitimate service; you are the jerk who is running a pretend business out of your basement and taking money from the hands of people who have a legit business."
What defines a legit business? Is it a license from the state? The employment of people? Cred in among other retailers? What?
Seems like you have a bit of elitism in ya.
Hey Dug I added more to my original post. With a little more of an explanation. Essentially adding stuff about my successful self employment competing against many larger firms. I was wondering what you thought of that, but from your answer I think it's safe to assume that you, "get annoyed when [you] have to compete for business with people who have no overhead because they are not a legitimate business."
So what I am gathering is that you don't like home businesses because they hurt your bottom line. I'm sorry but that's not a compelling reason for anyone to stop doing their thang. After all that's capitalism for ya!
I here what you are saying. However, I am not a regular consumer.I fit in the
basement mechanic category, and that category is not large in population,so it does not have a huge effect on the revenue that lbs generate yearly.
Your avg consumers do not know anything about bikes,so they are going to be the ones pumping money and providing revenue for LBS,which is the way it is suppose to be. LBS exist for the purpose of providing services to people that don't know how to fix their bikes. That market will always be there for
LBS to exploit (just saying).
The more a person learns about building and working on bikes,the less visits that person will make to the lbs.....which is why some lbs like to keep people ignorant when it comes to bikes...
it's a catch 22
notoriousDUG said:mfa cycle factory said:
lbs:15 percent craigslist:10 percent.
No crying when local bike shops close then...
As compelling (and amusing) as it has been to read the main exchange here, I think you may have been shortchanged on recommendations of where to buy good tools at reasonable prices. As far as LBS's go, I would suggest you take a look at the selection at Irv's Bike Shop in Pilsen (Halsted and Racine), which in addition to Park Tools and Pedro's also carries Avenir tools and others that are somewhat less expensive. One other source I am reluctant to name. While dog-sitting for my parents in the suburbs recently, I decided out of boredom to enter a Wal-Mart for the first time in my life to see what they carried in the way of bike-related items. To my surprise, the had a fairly good selection of tools and accessories, including Bell tools (known for helmets, of course) which I have not seen anywhere else. They had a chain tool for like $4.96 or something ridiculous like that, and a single-speed chain for $6.96. I won't actually shop there for all kinds of personal reasons, but for the absolutely budget-conscious without a social conscience, you are unlikely to find lower prices on either of these items, and Bell is fairly trustworthy.