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Permalink Reply by h' 1.0 on September 20, 2011 at 1:29pm Thanks for the report, Matt. I'm sure this discussion will be useful for those who are also new to invitational rides.
What time did you get rolling?
Permalink Reply by Billy Poore on September 20, 2011 at 1:54pm
Permalink Reply by kiltedcelt on September 20, 2011 at 2:12pm I think I was rolling by 9:30/9:45 or so? My bike computer tells me I spent 5:22 actually riding. I stopped at three of the rest stops but I think I only spent at most about 15 minutes or so at those. I think I rolled in to the finish around 5:20 or so. If I had to give some advice to riders new to the whole organized club ride thing, I give these bits of advice:
1. Ride with friends, it will make it more fun
2. Do pack your own food in case you don't like what is being served at the rest stops. Bananas may be a staple of these kinds of rides but ugh... I know now that my gut will only tolerate one or two, not the three or four I ate over the course of the day.
3. Bring a rack bag or panniers to cart along extra gear you might need. I certainly needed my rain jacket which I was able to pack along.
4. You'll also need your own tubes and patches and pump. The organizers of this ride wanted everyone to be this prepared, but be aware that if you have some mechanical beyond a flat tire, you're on your own. As I said, I only saw the sag wagon once the whole day. Mechanical support doesn't do you any good if you can't get to a rest stop so you better be somewhat self-sufficient on longer rides.
5. Dress for the weather - look at your forecast beforehand. I thought it'd be nice enough for a jersey only. It was a good thing for me that I wore a long sleeve base layer.
Bikewinter-kickoff-Thursday! said:
Thanks for the report, Matt. I'm sure this discussion will be useful for those who are also new to invitational rides.
What time did you get rolling?
Permalink Reply by h' 1.0 on September 20, 2011 at 2:13pm I don't think that's quite what he's asking.
Typically you do participate in an invitational ride because you want to support the host organization to some extent, but there are also things you expect to get out of it, including:
-well-marked route, offering well-chosen roads
-opportunity to put in miles on a course with others, potential for "protection" of riding in a group
-route support so you don't get stranded in unfamiliar territory
-maybe something fun or interesting along the way to break up the monotony and help the miles go by
-rest stops featuring things you need/want, pleasant volunteers, maybe some entertainment
(all I have time for)
Jared said:
I'm guessing its a fundraiser and most of your money goes to directly to the host organization.
Permalink Reply by kiltedcelt on September 20, 2011 at 2:18pm
Oh yeah, I think my 5:22 time was pretty good for me, but I think had I just ridden on my own at my own pace or been with a similarly skilled rider or group I probably would've turned in a quicker time by at least a half hour or more. I think I took longer because I rode with some slower folks for a few miles here and there.
Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on September 20, 2011 at 2:18pm That's correct. And after expenses, EBC (host organization) makes significant donations to bike-related non-profits from what they get.
I've done the ride several times in the past, but not this year. The southbound return routes for all distances merge together at various points. That's how they've done it for years. There are portions of the routes (especially on the return) where higher speed higher traffic roads are the most workable options for longer distance riders.
Food is usually excellent, and they typically have live entertainment at the post-ride festival and at least one rest stop. How were those aspects of this year's ride?
FYI - I was talking to one of the sag drivers last night. He said that there were a few crashes or other problems where riders needed to be picked up, or have their bikes transported. The sag drivers were out there, but they were very busy on a few sections of the routes, from what I heard.
It sounded like weather-related issues (flat tires and crashes) kept the support volunteers very busy throughout the ride. In better, more typical weather, I've usually seen plenty of support out on the roads. My impression is that this wasn't exactly a typical year for the event.
Jared said:
I'm guessing its a fundraiser and most of your money goes to directly to the host organization.
Permalink Reply by kiltedcelt on September 20, 2011 at 2:20pm
Permalink Reply by h' 1.0 on September 20, 2011 at 2:25pm Oops-- we were typing at the same time . . .
Good assessment-- I'd say the biggest by far: Get started early.
I saw so many instances of newbies starting at the tail end (or even after the cutoff time) over the years I rode these things, and always wondered if it would be their last invitational since they missed pretty much the whole experience, and probably encountered cranky people on the route and at the rest stops trying to pack up and get home.
Matt Campbell said:
I think I was rolling by 9:30/9:45 or so? My bike computer tells me I spent 5:22 actually riding. I stopped at three of the rest stops but I think I only spent at most about 15 minutes or so at those. I think I rolled in to the finish around 5:20 or so. If I had to give some advice to riders new to the whole organized club ride thing, I give these bits of advice:
1. Ride with friends, it will make it more fun
2. Do pack your own food in case you don't like what is being served at the rest stops. Bananas may be a staple of these kinds of rides but ugh... I know now that my gut will only tolerate one or two, not the three or four I ate over the course of the day.
3. Bring a rack bag or panniers to cart along extra gear you might need. I certainly needed my rain jacket which I was able to pack along.
4. You'll also need your own tubes and patches and pump. The organizers of this ride wanted everyone to be this prepared, but be aware that if you have some mechanical beyond a flat tire, you're on your own. As I said, I only saw the sag wagon once the whole day. Mechanical support doesn't do you any good if you can't get to a rest stop so you better be somewhat self-sufficient on longer rides.
5. Dress for the weather - look at your forecast beforehand. I thought it'd be nice enough for a jersey only. It was a good thing for me that I wore a long sleeve base layer.
Bikewinter-kickoff-Thursday! said:Thanks for the report, Matt. I'm sure this discussion will be useful for those who are also new to invitational rides.
What time did you get rolling?
Permalink Reply by kiltedcelt on September 20, 2011 at 2:58pm The food was okay I suppose. Honestly, besides bananas and other fruit I don't know what would be the best foods to serve to cyclists on this kind of ride, but a belly full of cookies and brownies doesn't sound like a good idea which is why I steered away from that stuff at the rest stops. I gathered that this was not a typical year in that the weather is usually much nicer for this ride, so I can see where that might have affected the frequency of seeing the SAG wagon. As for post ride festivities, there were none that I could see. People just rolled in, got their certificates of accomplishment and left best I could tell. I can't blame anyone for not sticking around. After riding in the rain for 5 hours and being covered in grime all I could think about was a hot shower and a hot meal.
Anne Alt said:
Food is usually excellent, and they typically have live entertainment at the post-ride festival and at least one rest stop. How were those aspects of this year's ride?
FYI - I was talking to one of the sag drivers last night. He said that there were a few crashes or other problems where riders needed to be picked up, or have their bikes transported. The sag drivers were out there, but they were very busy on a few sections of the routes, from what I heard.
It sounded like weather-related issues (flat tires and crashes) kept the support volunteers very busy throughout the ride. In better, more typical weather, I've usually seen plenty of support out on the roads. My impression is that this wasn't exactly a typical year for the event.
Jared said:I'm guessing its a fundraiser and most of your money goes to directly to the host organization.
Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on September 20, 2011 at 3:15pm In a more typical year, there's a fun band playing at the finish area, and many folks stick around to socialize.
I can understand why riding all that time in the rain (especially without fenders) would put a damper on things.
Permalink Reply by Bob on September 20, 2011 at 4:12pm
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