Tire Liners - thumbs up/thumbs down - The Chainlink2024-03-29T11:08:54Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/2211490:Topic:15712?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A16024&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLots of replies already, but…tag:thechainlink.org,2008-10-10:2211490:Comment:160242008-10-10T11:28:04.120ZChuckohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Chuck
Lots of replies already, but I just wanted to add my voice to the calls for better tires first. I have used Gatorskins and Bontrager Racelite Hardcase tires for the past few years. In the last 5000 miles I have had three flats total. And I think at least one of those could be attributed to wearing out tires. And one was caused by a pothole, which any tire would have fallen prey too.
Lots of replies already, but I just wanted to add my voice to the calls for better tires first. I have used Gatorskins and Bontrager Racelite Hardcase tires for the past few years. In the last 5000 miles I have had three flats total. And I think at least one of those could be attributed to wearing out tires. And one was caused by a pothole, which any tire would have fallen prey too. Hmm...I'm going to assume tha…tag:thechainlink.org,2008-10-10:2211490:Comment:159882008-10-10T04:13:42.255ZJessicahttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Jessica
Hmm...I'm going to assume that was a 'smart' remark. I don't consider myself an expert by any means, but I have worked as a bike mechanic for going on 3 years now, so on the same token, I'm not an idiot. I make my fair share of mistakes...we all do.<br />
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The weird part about my blow out was that I had ridden TO work on it 20 miles, didn't change the psi at all on it, and I wasn't doing anything weird. I had inflated the tires that morning. It truly was a random blowout. Rather funny, imo...but…
Hmm...I'm going to assume that was a 'smart' remark. I don't consider myself an expert by any means, but I have worked as a bike mechanic for going on 3 years now, so on the same token, I'm not an idiot. I make my fair share of mistakes...we all do.<br />
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The weird part about my blow out was that I had ridden TO work on it 20 miles, didn't change the psi at all on it, and I wasn't doing anything weird. I had inflated the tires that morning. It truly was a random blowout. Rather funny, imo...but probably because I wasn't in a time rush. It hasn't happened since, with another 1000 miles on the bike, plus one cross race. Hm. Temperamental bike, wanting to keep me on my toes...<br />
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<cite>h3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://chainlink.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A15977&x=1#2211490Comment15977"><div>Good call Danielle.<br/> Same thing happened to me a long time ago, on a hybrid with something like 700x35s. I think I may have had a fold in the tube causing the bulge; Jessica seems like too much of an expert to make a mistake like that though.<br/>
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<cite>Danielle said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A15968&x=1#2211490Comment15968"><div>Sounds like your tire was over inflated, your rim is damaged, or the tire wasn't seated properly. Just a guess though!<br/> <br/> <cite>Jessica said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&x=1&page=1#2211490Comment15767"><div>I ride 700 by 32. Had one problem...that was a straight up blow out. Heard the tire unseat, the tube rubbed on the brakes twice...I had enough time to get a 'Son of a bitch..' out before the shot was heard to the world. I have NO idea what caused that...I was riding home from work...<br/></div>
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</blockquote> Sounds like your tire was ove…tag:thechainlink.org,2008-10-10:2211490:Comment:159682008-10-10T03:22:11.294ZDaniellehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Danielle
Sounds like your tire was over inflated, your rim is damaged, or the tire wasn't seated properly. Just a guess though!<br />
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<cite>Jessica said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&x=1&page=1#2211490Comment15767"><div>I ride 700 by 32. Had one problem...that was a straight up blow out. Heard the tire unseat, the tube rubbed on the brakes twice...I had enough time to get a 'Son of a bitch..' out before the shot was heard to the…</div>
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Sounds like your tire was over inflated, your rim is damaged, or the tire wasn't seated properly. Just a guess though!<br />
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<cite>Jessica said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&x=1&page=1#2211490Comment15767"><div>I ride 700 by 32. Had one problem...that was a straight up blow out. Heard the tire unseat, the tube rubbed on the brakes twice...I had enough time to get a 'Son of a bitch..' out before the shot was heard to the world. I have NO idea what caused that...I was riding home from work...<br/></div>
</blockquote> Tire size is the circumferenc…tag:thechainlink.org,2008-10-10:2211490:Comment:159182008-10-10T01:03:42.113Zvxlahttps://thechainlink.org/profile/vxla
Tire size is the circumference of the tire; 700 tires fit on 622 rims. 622 is the bead seat diameter of the rim, which just about equals the inner bead measurement of the tire. There's an ISO marking on most tires which equals the BSD.<br />
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sheldon brown == snopes<br />
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<a href="http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html">http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html</a>
Tire size is the circumference of the tire; 700 tires fit on 622 rims. 622 is the bead seat diameter of the rim, which just about equals the inner bead measurement of the tire. There's an ISO marking on most tires which equals the BSD.<br />
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sheldon brown == snopes<br />
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<a href="http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html">http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html</a> I thought the 700s are VERY s…tag:thechainlink.org,2008-10-10:2211490:Comment:159132008-10-10T00:58:15.152ZJessicahttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Jessica
I thought the 700s are VERY similar. The cross ones are wider, not taller. But hey, I could be totally wrong. It happens.<br />
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<cite>h3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://chainlink.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&page=3#2211490Comment15910"><div>Circumference?<br></br> Refers to rim size more than tire size, no?<br></br> Is there a bicycle equivalent of snopes.com?<br></br>
A question for "The Straight Dope?"<br></br>
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I thought the 700s are VERY similar. The cross ones are wider, not taller. But hey, I could be totally wrong. It happens.<br />
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<cite>h3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://chainlink.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&page=3#2211490Comment15910"><div>Circumference?<br/> Refers to rim size more than tire size, no?<br/>
Is there a bicycle equivalent of snopes.com?<br/>
A question for "The Straight Dope?"<br/>
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<cite>Jessica said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&x=1&page=2#2211490Comment15906"><div>Well darn. Random information : FAIL. I'll have to find where I read that...it seemed legit... :(<br/> <br/> Oh, and it still says C on my tires. And all the packages off the tires in the shop. And on all those tires. And on all articles I've read about tires...</div>
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</blockquote> Well darn. Random information…tag:thechainlink.org,2008-10-10:2211490:Comment:159062008-10-10T00:19:30.121ZJessicahttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Jessica
Well darn. Random information : FAIL. I'll have to find where I read that...it seemed legit... :(<br />
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Oh, and it still says C on my tires. And all the packages off the tires in the shop. And on all those tires. And on all articles I've read about tires...
Well darn. Random information : FAIL. I'll have to find where I read that...it seemed legit... :(<br />
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Oh, and it still says C on my tires. And all the packages off the tires in the shop. And on all those tires. And on all articles I've read about tires... hey bikefreeek - I could be w…tag:thechainlink.org,2008-10-10:2211490:Comment:159022008-10-10T00:10:01.820ZAbbyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Abby
hey bikefreeek - I could be wrong but I think you were the guy (alex?) at west town that helped me and root change a tire for the first time ... So I am gonna listen to you.<br />
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New tires it is, bad luck it was...we will start there<br />
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BONUS: root is sacrificing some Gatorskins from a unused ride<br></br><br></br><cite>Bikefreeek said:</cite><blockquote><div>Invest into good tires. Schwalbe Marathons, Continental Gatorskins, and Specialized Armadillos are all good bets. A $40 tire is worth so much more than…</div>
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hey bikefreeek - I could be wrong but I think you were the guy (alex?) at west town that helped me and root change a tire for the first time ... So I am gonna listen to you.<br />
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New tires it is, bad luck it was...we will start there<br />
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BONUS: root is sacrificing some Gatorskins from a unused ride<br/><br/><cite>Bikefreeek said:</cite><blockquote><div>Invest into good tires. Schwalbe Marathons, Continental Gatorskins, and Specialized Armadillos are all good bets. A $40 tire is worth so much more than a $20 tire that you end up fixing flats on.
I'm not a fan of tire liners not only because they add more weight, but they also add another edge inside the tire that can cause pinch flats when tires are not adequately filled. Slime is bad all together. Not only does it add rotational weight, but because it's a liquid it moves around in your tire weird when starting and stopping. It's really gross when punctured (as mentioned) and clogs up valvestems and pump heads when inflating.</div>
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+1 on no liners/slime generally, though in winter the liners if used properly can add extra security. Snow+wind+20 degrees+flat = very bad day.<br />
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I've gotten over 10K miles off of a set of Maxxis Detonators (took me a whole month! harhar), and IMHO they are smother rolling than other big mileage tires. Maybe a tad hard to find.<br />
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Also keep an eye out for debris/glass/nails/tiny unicorns.<br />
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Having said that, I flatted TWICE yesterday while doing a little cross practice on the lakefront. Failed to…
+1 on no liners/slime generally, though in winter the liners if used properly can add extra security. Snow+wind+20 degrees+flat = very bad day.<br />
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I've gotten over 10K miles off of a set of Maxxis Detonators (took me a whole month! harhar), and IMHO they are smother rolling than other big mileage tires. Maybe a tad hard to find.<br />
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Also keep an eye out for debris/glass/nails/tiny unicorns.<br />
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Having said that, I flatted TWICE yesterday while doing a little cross practice on the lakefront. Failed to find the culprit the first time 'round. Lesson: ALWAYS ALWAYS have a way to patch a tube with you, like the park tools self adhesive patch kit. You should be able to get 350…tag:thechainlink.org,2008-10-09:2211490:Comment:158922008-10-09T23:51:40.116ZBikefreeekhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AlexWilson
You should be able to get 3500 miles (at least) out of any decent tire. Now 10,000 miles, that would be impressive!<br />
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<cite>Kevin Mulcky said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A15889&x=1#2211490Comment15889"><div>I've heard a few examples of the Marathons lasting for thousands of miles.<br/> <br/></div>
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You should be able to get 3500 miles (at least) out of any decent tire. Now 10,000 miles, that would be impressive!<br />
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<cite>Kevin Mulcky said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A15889&x=1#2211490Comment15889"><div>I've heard a few examples of the Marathons lasting for thousands of miles.<br/> <br/></div>
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I've heard a few examples of the Marathons lasting for thousands of miles.<br />
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<cite>Bikefreeek said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&page=2#2211490Comment15809"><div>Invest into good tires. Schwalbe Marathons, Continental Gatorskins, and Specialized Armadillos are all good bets. A $40 tire is worth so much more than a $20 tire that you end up fixing flats on.<br></br> <br></br> I'm not a fan of tire liners not only because they add more…</div>
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I've heard a few examples of the Marathons lasting for thousands of miles.<br />
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<cite>Bikefreeek said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topic/show?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A15712&page=2#2211490Comment15809"><div>Invest into good tires. Schwalbe Marathons, Continental Gatorskins, and Specialized Armadillos are all good bets. A $40 tire is worth so much more than a $20 tire that you end up fixing flats on.<br/> <br/>
I'm not a fan of tire liners not only because they add more weight, but they also add another edge inside the tire that can cause pinch flats when tires are not adequately filled. Slime is bad all together. Not only does it add rotational weight, but because it's a liquid it moves around in your tire weird when starting and stopping. It's really gross when punctured (as mentioned) and clogs up valvestems and pump heads when inflating.</div>
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